self-reliance as a stumbling block

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    self-reliance as a stumbling block

    I like to dabble around in poetry every once in a while, and here's something that gets some of my thoughts across to women who choose to do nothing to take their own safety into their hands.

    I'm also tired of anti-gunners who say, "that's why you have a man to protect you." That's an incredibly sexist thing to say, and makes me think of these countries where women are not permitted to go outdoors without being accompanied by her husband or male relative (and she's severely beaten when she does).

    And this doesn't mean a woman has to carry a gun as her only means of protection, or the gun is the "prevent-all, cure-all."

    The gun is still perceived as "the man's thing" (kinda like a BBQ grill ) and handling one is sometimes seen as "unfeminine." Those are silly beliefs - guns aren't "just for men" and not only can they be fun to shoot, it is the great equalizer that gives a small woman a heckuva chance against a big assailant, and gives one a great sense of responsibility.

    With a great sense of responsibility comes self-respect and self-reliance. You have more of an ability to stand up for yourself, and stand up on your own. I think that those men who believe women shouldn't shoot are those who don't want to suffer inadequacy issues if a woman is able to defend herself. They enjoy the power and find self-reliant females intimidating.

    (I once scared a guy off before because not only was I overall independent, I took responsibility for my own safety. He said it was intimidating and added, "I'm unable to do anything for you." Poor guy, he really did mean well. )

    Anyhow, here it is. Any helpful suggestions for better wording is welcome.
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    Last edited by Betty; October 17th, 2005 at 08:31 PM.
    "Americans have the will to resist because you have weapons. If you don't have a gun, freedom of speech has no power." - Yoshimi Ishikawa

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    Betty - I don't think I would change a bit of it - sure, for sake of editing I could be pedantic () but - really feel it stands up just fine and kudos to you.

    Great pic and I like the message.

    I am a huge fan of women shooting and carrying - and if you have read a recent thread or two of mine will see just how actively I encourage it - having spent time getting my wife more up to speed, as well as getting a wife of friends right in at the beginning with her new handgun.

    I am angered by (macho?) guys who have this crap approach, almost like - ''she belongs in the kitchen or bedroom'' sorta BS. If anything I would say that women should carry even more than the guys - as usually they are less in weight and less able with potential hands on fighting technique - tho not always!

    It really is great to have a lady of your grace and talent on the board - oh for more ladies of your caliber.
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    Nothing wrong with an independent woman,especially 1 with a gun. Part of the reason I asked my girlfriend out, was the independent spirit she seemed to have. She hunts and shoots as well as any man. She sure gets mad at men who think she knows nothing about hunting and shooting though. ( she worked in a sporting goods store. )

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    Great Betty

    Great Visual impact & great contrast - Your work is really very good.
    I am not being patronizing when I say that.
    Neat!

    Hey Chris be "pedantic" on your own time.

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    I like the photo (great choice of firearm ) and the message...self reliance is for everyone, regardless of gender, and using the equalizing tools available is a shared right for all.
    Quote Originally Posted by Betty

    (I once scared a guy off before because not only was I overall independent, I took responsibility for my own safety. He said it was intimidating and added, "I'm unable to do anything for you." Poor guy, he really did mean well. )
    His loss...having a partner that can watch my six (and vice-versa ) would be a good thing.
    "I surrounded 'em"- Alvin York

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    Quote Originally Posted by Betty

    The gun is still perceived as "the man's thing" (kinda like a BBQ grill )
    Oh, yeah...I forgot:

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    "I surrounded 'em"- Alvin York

    "They're ain't many troubles that a man can't fix with seven hundred dollars and a thirty ought six"- Jeff Cooper

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    possible alternate wording

    Betty,
    Your poem is good as it stands,
    but here is a possible alternate wording:

    "Our worth is ours
    to weigh and decide.

    "Let self-reliance
    be our guide."

    *shrugs*
    i think it makes for
    a [slightly] stronger ending.

    (I ran 3 martial arts classes,
    and taught women's self defense
    to some women in my church,
    so I do like your general sentiments
    as I am very "pro" self-reliant women)

    Thank you,
    dave
    "When a strong man, fully armed,
    guards his own palace,
    his goods are in peace."
    --- Jesus (Luke 11:21)

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    Very nice.
    Last edited by armoredman; October 19th, 2005 at 01:27 PM.
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    Betty,
    Your poem is good as it stands,
    but here is a possible alternate wording:

    "Our worth is ours
    to weigh and decide.

    "Let self-reliance
    be our guide."
    Thanks for the suggestion! My reason for wording it the other way was an attempt to make people think that if they're not choosing self-reliance, they're choosing to rely on others - in effect, being a deliberate burden on others. My wording was trying to discreetly backhand those people.

    People should consider themselves priceless, and I think that anyone who refuses to take even small precautions to maintain their own safety are turning themselves into hand-me-downs, passing the responsibility of themselves onto others. And as a cop once told me, "We're not babysitters."
    "Americans have the will to resist because you have weapons. If you don't have a gun, freedom of speech has no power." - Yoshimi Ishikawa

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    Ok

    OK; now I see where you are coming from.
    Yes, in that case it stands fine "as is."

    Yes, your cop friend is correct;
    babysitting is not their job;
    people need to take personal responsibility
    for their own safety.

    I see many people today walking around
    in Condition White (i.e. totally unaware).
    Having a firearm on your person,
    or having a black belt in some martial art,
    neither one of these will do a bit of good
    to the person who refuses
    to stay aware of their surroundings at all times.

    One of my best friends was nearly mugged
    in a parking lot.
    His vigilence in shoving her into their car
    prevented any harm being done.
    But she was angry with him
    because she was so out-of-touch
    with her environment
    that she failed to notice the threat.
    This "nice woman" feels that if
    we are just "nice" to everyone else
    than "the universe" will take care of us.

    Thank God, my friend married another women
    and this one is a fireman (firewoman)
    who can take care of herself
    and has her own handgun.

    Okay, I'll get off my soapbox now
    (sorry for the long posting,
    but I'm a newbie. *lol* )

    take care & be well,
    and congratulations
    (newly married, right?)
    (marriage is very good
    says the husband of many years. )
    "When a strong man, fully armed,
    guards his own palace,
    his goods are in peace."
    --- Jesus (Luke 11:21)

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    One of the things that made my wife, then girlfriend, decide to keep me around is that I told her I was looking for a girl who could take care of herself... but didn't mind letting me take care of her sometimes.

    I quite admire a lady who is self-reliant. I really like to cook, so I guess I'm just all about breaking gender stereotypes. ;)
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    Sounds good, nice pic

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    Betty,
    Great image in the photo and good poem the way you have written it....don't change it as far as I can see.

    macfada,
    Your are very right about the fact that more or most all people should become self reliant, but far too many people, men and woman included, leave there lives in the "universe's hands"...but that could be a topic for several threads not just this one.

    Betty as usual you have got me thinking again.
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