How do the current candidates stand on the 2nd Amendment?
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Here are the views of Obama, ...
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May 16th, 2008 05:20 AM
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How do the current candidates stand on the 2nd Amendment?
Hopefully this hasn't been posted before and if it has, sorry, it can't hurt to see it again right?
Here are the views of Obama, Clinton, and McCain on various "Gun Control" issues:
Obama:
Barack Obama on Gun Control
Clinton:
Hillary Clinton on Gun Control
McCain:
John McCain on Gun Control
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May 16th, 2008 05:40 AM
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Great post on the "big picture" of where the candidates stand
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May 16th, 2008 06:51 AM
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Pretty clear choice for me...although it's not a 'happy' one (not much to pick from on other issues though)...
"That I cannot do."
"Give this to, uh, Clemenza. I want reliable people, people who aren't going to be carried away. After all we're not murderers in spite of what this undertaker thinks."
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May 16th, 2008 07:40 AM
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It'd be easier if we could make choose not just one candidate, but a different one to be president of each category. like:
"president on 2a related stuff"
"president of the economy"
"president of making sure that I (individually) get a good retirement healthcare program and pension"
etc.
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May 16th, 2008 07:59 AM
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Please do remember that these are "politicians" who tend to say what they think most voters want to hear. What they actually do once elected is often quite different then what they said. And this is true for all politicians, regardless of party. So, IMO, if they express even moderate gun control positions, you can almost bet the farm they are doing so to try to placate Second Amendment advocates like us. Once elected, we will face a very different scenario.
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May 16th, 2008 08:05 AM
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The real gun rights contest will be in Congress.
And it looks pretty bleak.
AFS
Gun control is hitting what you aim at
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May 16th, 2008 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by
AirForceShooter
The real gun rights contest will be in Congress.
And it looks pretty bleak.
AFS
+1
The candidate? (our best choice out of the line-up of incompetents)?--my opinion-----at best, wishy-washy. Just wait until they are under pressure and in office, then polls or the American public won't amount to a hill of beans.
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May 16th, 2008 01:41 PM
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Don't know a whole lot about Bob Barr, but as a Libertarian, he surley will have many of our wishes in common. So he will be another possibility. I saw an interview with him (Glen Beck maybe?) where it was estimated that he would get 3% of the vote. Ugh
The thing with him is though, the fact he is the 3rd party candidate puts him at a extreme disadvantage, regardless of his platform. This country is frozen in a 2-party system, and I think its not doing us any good. Ron Paul got some amazing financial support during the Rep. primary, but no one seemed to really take him serious or give any attention. I think the same will be true for Barr. He's making news with his announcement to run right now, but by the time the election rolls around, is anyone going to know who he is?? Some different options would be refreshing for this election.
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May 16th, 2008 02:14 PM
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Wait, I'm confused, what is McCain's position on "Assault Weapons"?
Opposes restrictions on assault weapons and ammunition types
Supports ban on certain assault weapons
Voted against Brady Bill & assault weapon ban
And what about banning/restricting firearms in general?
Repeal existing gun restrictions
And what about gun show background checks?
Voted NO on background checks at gun shows
Yep, sounds like the kind of conservative we need in the White House.
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May 16th, 2008 02:58 PM
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I agree with pretty much all of you. It's going to be down to the lesser of 2 or 3 evils.
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May 17th, 2008 04:08 AM
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Wouldnt it be cool to actually vote for a candidate because you REALLY wanted to vote for them? It sometimes seems like a pseudo-democracy when you are always voting to keep someone out or voting for the "lesser evil" candidate. What a drag.
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May 17th, 2008 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by
AirForceShooter
The real gun rights contest will be in Congress.
And it looks pretty bleak.
AFS
Our only hope there is that hopefully they remember what happened the last time they tried to ban our guns. Many of them are now former Congressmen.

Originally Posted by
jonesy_26
Don't know a whole lot about Bob Barr, but as a Libertarian, he surley will have many of our wishes in common. So he will be another possibility. I saw an interview with him (Glen Beck maybe?) where it was estimated that he would get 3% of the vote. Ugh
The thing with him is though, the fact he is the 3rd party candidate puts him at a extreme disadvantage, regardless of his platform. This country is frozen in a 2-party system, and I think its not doing us any good. Ron Paul got some amazing financial support during the Rep. primary, but no one seemed to really take him serious or give any attention. I think the same will be true for Barr. He's making news with his announcement to run right now, but by the time the election rolls around, is anyone going to know who he is?? Some different options would be refreshing for this election.
A 3rd party candidate will never get any media time. They follow the bandwagon. They want what sells & advances their social agenda.
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