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    Anyone know if this passed? Any info at all? Thanks.
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    According to the Buckeye Firearms Association due to a possible amendment the vote for the House committee was delayed until this Wednesday.

    Castle Doctrine sponsor testimony heard in committee; Vote rescheduled for May 22 after possible amendment | Buckeye Firearms Association
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    Thanks Marine. Two questions for you...1 Where are you stationed? and 2 Where did you get the avatar graphic?
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    No problem. I'm usually more up to date on Ohio legislative works, but have been busy lately. Currently stationed in Hawaii (not as great as it sounds) I like Ohio better.

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    thanks. :)
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    The Ohio House will consider an amendment to S.B. 184 (Castle Doctrine) this Wednesday morning at 9:30 a.m. It is critically important that your Representative hear from you immediately.

    Law enforcement groups are working frantically behind the scenes at this very moment to scuttle this important fix. Your Representative needs to know you support gun rights in Ohio.
    Castle Doctrine bill needs your support NOW! | Buckeye Firearms Association

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    Quote Originally Posted by atctimmy View Post
    Anyone know if this passed? Any info at all? Thanks.
    The Ohio House will consider an amendment to S.B. 184 (Castle Doctrine) this Wednesday morning at 9:30 a.m. It is critically important that your Representative hear from you immediately.

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    I spent yesterday and today in the Statehouse. No vote at this point. Back at it next week.

    Keep the phone calls and emails rolling into the Representatives and Senators politely asking them to vote for SB184.

    Governor Strickland is solidly behind this bill and will sign it if and when it hits his desk!
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    Amended SB184 passed out of House Criminal Justice Committee with a 9-3 vote
    Amended SB184 (Castle Doctrine) passed out of House Criminal Justice Committee with a 9-3 vote | Buckeye Firearms Association
    Submitted by jirvine on Tue, 05/27/2008 - 14:35. Ohio Legislation

    Buckeye Firearms Association applauds the Ohio House Criminal Justice Committee's 9-3 vote to pass the amended SB184.

    SB184 passed the Ohio Senate in April with a 31-0 vote. Before being voted out of committee in the House, it was amended to include technical corrections and improve laws for law-abiding gun owners in Ohio.

    The amendment provides a legal way to transport an unloaded handgun in a vehicle, allow a licensee to pick up a child from school, to carry a concealed firearm in one's own home without a license, to carry concealed in places such as grocery stores that sell alcohol for off-site consumption, to carry concealed in publicly-owned facilities such as park shelters, parking garages, and highway rest stop buildings, and to carry in an unlocked, closed glove compartment or center console.

    The amendment also eliminates the written test to re-qualify for a Concealed Handgun License (CHL), defines a "loaded" firearm more clearly, provides for mandatory attorney's fees when police fail to return a firearm to its rightful owner, and prevents a landlord from evicting a tenant because they lawfully own and/or carry a firearm.

    Several law enforcement agencies strenuously objected to defining a "loaded gun" to mean specifically a gun with ammunition in the gun. They seem to prefer the current confusing and haphazard standard that will be fixed by this bill.

    The Ohio Prosecutors Association vehemently objected to the change which will require them to assume crime victims are innocent until proven guilty. They argued to keep in place an unfair system where crime victims must prove their innocence after they successfully stop a violent attack with deadly force. In the past, victims have been presumed guilty until they proved themselves innocent.

    SB184 will reduce penalties for good people ensnared by confusing laws. This change focuses our criminal justice system on punishing criminals and removes undue burden from law-abiding gun owners, police, and the general population.

    The bill is now expected to move to the Ohio House where a floor vote is expected Wednesday. We are encouraging calls to your State Representative to urge them to vote for SB184.

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    Chairman White on Castle Doctrine: Committee vote today, Floor vote tomorrow, Senate vote "soon after"
    Chairman White on Castle Doctrine: Committee vote today, Floor vote tomorrow, Senate vote "soon after" | Buckeye Firearms Association
    Submitted by cbaus on Tue, 05/27/2008 - 00:10. Ohio Legislation Guns in the News
    According to comments made to the press by House Criminal Justice Committee Chairman John White (R-38), the hundreds if not thousands of calls and letters that have poured into the Statehouse over the weekend have been heard.

    White told the Dayton Daily News Saturday that a vote would be taken in committee on Tuesday, followed by a floor vote by the House on Wednesday, and a Senate concurrence vote "soon after".

    What White has not yet indicated is the final form Buckeye Firearms Association- and NRA-backed amendments will take.

    From the story:

    The legislation is part of Senate Bill 184 and would allow registered handgun owners to carry unloaded firearms and ammunition in their vehicles. The National Rifle Association is pushing the proposal.

    "All this does is provide another loophole for people to carry firearms in their cars," Dayton police union President Lt. Randy Beane said.

    "This means you can have a gun in the seat next to you and the ammo right beside it. This puts officers and the public more at risk."

    Current legislation makes it illegal to transport a handgun and ammunition without a conceal-and-carry permit.

    In truth, this part of the amendment would simply fix a drafting error that was made when Ohio's concealed carry law was passed in 2004, as well as to specify that the definition of a loaded gun means just that - "loaded".

    The legislature never intended to make it impossible for gun owners to transport unloaded handguns in a motor vehicle in Ohio, and indeed that is just what Buckeye Firearms Association has been warning is "The biggest legal threat you didn't know you were facing."

    Proponents of the legislation said it is intended to protect law-abiding citizens who wish to use their firearms in a lawful way, such as hunters, gun lovers and sport shooters.

    "How many times have (police officers) found a criminal carrying an unloaded gun?" said Jim Irvine, a spokesman for the Buckeye Firearms Association, which helped craft the legislation. "If someone is intending to commit a crime, they aren't thinking of the law to begin with. They are going to do it no matter what the law says."

    The proposal would also allow off-duty officers to carry guns inside bars and prevent law enforcement from seizing legal guns during government-declared emergencies.

    Some law enforcement officers aren't too concerned about the change, agreeing with Irvine that those who commit gun violence disregard the law as it is now.

    "It's not going to impact the way we conduct our business," Dayton police Sgt. Chris Williams said. "Law-abiding citizens are not our problem."

    And once again, we see the difference between an out-of-touch, elitist labor union president and a rank and file officer who is actually out on the beat.

    Chairman White told the Daily News the bill is expected to pass out of his committee today, May 27, and head to the House for a vote on Wednesday. White also said he expects Senate approval soon after. Governor Strickland already said he would sign the bill into law with amendments as originally proposed.

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    Keep the updates coming. Thanks.
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    I was there yesterday for the House CJ committee vote, and will be there today for the House session vote. We're hoping the Senate will vote on it today, instead of tomorrow. Governor Strickland is fully on board with this bill. Once it's signed, it will be one of the biggest sweeping gun reform bills ever in Ohio.

    Huge THANKS go out to Buckeye Firearms Legislative chair Ken Hanson and NRA-ILA's liaison John Howenwarter for ALL of their many hours spent on this bill!!! If you're an Ohio resident and are in need of an attorney, I ask that you help repay Ken Hanson for all of his pro bono work, by using him for your legal needs.

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    Looks like the Ohio F.O.P are a bunch of cry babies.
    http://www.fopohio.org/files/CCW%20H...e%20Letter.pdf

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    Passed the House today 73-23. It will pass the Senate tomorrow.

    Here's our latest article about this important piece of legislation:

    Amended SB184 (Castle Doctrine) Passes Ohio House with a 73-23 vote! | Buckeye Firearms Association
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