Saf Calls Chicago Tribune Plea To Repeal 2a ‘unconscionable’
This is a discussion on Saf Calls Chicago Tribune Plea To Repeal 2a ‘unconscionable’ within the The Second Amendment & Gun Legislation Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; The original Pennsylvania Constitution predates the Second Amendment so that anyone that ever had any doubt as to the exact intent of the Second Amendment ...
June 28th, 2008 11:45 AM
The original Pennsylvania Constitution predates the Second Amendment so that anyone that ever had any doubt as to the exact intent of the Second Amendment (which was not adopted until December of 1791) concerning the right of an individual citizen to keep and bear arms needs only to read the Commonwealth Of Pennsylvania Declaration Of Rights of the people.
Constitution of Pennsylvania - September 28, 1776
The original 1776 PA Constitution
> XIII. That the people have a right to bear arms for the defence of themselves and the state;
and as standing armies in the time of peace are dangerous to liberty, they ought not to be kept up;
And that the military should be kept under strict subordination to, and governed by, the civil power.
Later changed to:
Right to Bear Arms
> The right of the citizens to bear arms in defense of themselves and the State shall not be questioned.
And then also keep in mind that EIGHT of the original Signers Of The Constitution were from Pennsylvania.
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June 28th, 2008 12:51 PM
I too think it is unlikely that DC v. Heller would be immediately overturned. There is, however, a path it could quickly be done. If one of the majority justices were to leave the court, and if the elections in November were to go a certain way, and if certain justices get nominated and confirmed, and if the liberal Ninth Circuit were to stay true to form on the almost certain appeal of whatever decisions are made regarding San Francisco's handgun ban, another case could get to the Supreme Court quickly.
That's a lot of ifs, but it is possible.
If the public are bound to yield obedience to laws to which they cannot give their approbation, they are slaves to those who make such laws and enforce them.--Samuel Adams as Candidus, Boston Gazette 20 Jan. 1772
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June 28th, 2008 03:05 PM
In whose favor? If the Democrats carry the race, we will be faced with a Democrat President, Senate and House. With likely three Supreme Court appointments to be made in the not-so-distant future, a Democrat-dominated Presidency and Congress is not likely to select conservative nominees, but activist liberal judges. The result could easily be a 5-4 court dominated by "living document" believers.
Originally Posted by SammyIamToday
June 28th, 2008 05:57 PM
The Court is in our favor (conservative view of the originalist intent of the Constitution) because the three justices likely to expire or retire are Stevens, who is 88, Ginsburg, whose brain expired years ago, and Souter, a Supreme disappointment.
Originally Posted by Tom357
Three liberal justices might be replaced and even if one turns out to be a justice in the mold of Alito, Thomas, Rberts and Scalia, the Court will have the opportunity to remove itself from the social political arena and more aligned with is Constitutional function. If all three replacements are liberals then 'we the people' will be no worse off.
Even if the unthinkable (and unlikely) occurs and Obama is sworn in next January, it is often the case that justices do not opine as the political factions would think based on their record. Souter is a perfect example. He was supposed to be an originalist justice. It turns out he is a far left liberal.
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