Heller and Switchblades?
This is a discussion on Heller and Switchblades? within the The Second Amendment & Gun Legislation Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; In many states (such as Colorado) Switchblades are completely banned. As are other types of knives (butterfly knives, so-called gravity knives, etc..). I'm curious as ...
July 1st, 2008 01:33 PM
Heller and Switchblades?
In many states (such as Colorado) Switchblades are completely banned. As are other types of knives (butterfly knives, so-called gravity knives, etc..). I'm curious as to whether or not people who have read the Heller opinion think that it might apply to "arms" other than firearms? What do you all think? Do I have grounds now to pursue the overturning of the Colorado law on Automatic knives?
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July 1st, 2008 02:03 PM
You could still move to FL though......
July 1st, 2008 02:04 PM
By definition 'arm' means device/tool of use as a weapon toward defense or offense, and that definitely includes knives along with machete, bow, air/pneumatic guns, as well as hoes, hammers, bats, and any other thing as well as firearms too.
And I'm dead serious in regard to farming implements, as the Chinese learned to adapt and use with great and legendary success centuries ago toward citizen and community defense...
Persons who believe that the 2A is toward firearms in specific they are mistaken.
Arms are just that and even during the time of the BoR drafting it was normative for knives, swords, whips, and the bow to be employed, along with longguns and the hand gun...toward defense of self or community.
Everything is a weapon and thus the whole of our physical world is an 'arm' be it a rock in a sling, a cup of scalding hot or icey cold water, or even simply a stick picked up from the ground and poked into an offenders eye. The laces on my shoes can very easily be deployed as a garrote in a pinch or the shoe itself as an impact weapon.
The right to bear arms is just that, and it's not just about guns.
The DC case though was specifically toward handguns and specific types of longguns.
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July 1st, 2008 02:12 PM
I agree that knives are considered arms under the ruling and the original meaning of the amendment.
That said, the ruling clearly allows for limitations and restrictions.
In a city like Seattle where virtually all knives are illegal... sure, it might help get that overturned. But if specific types of knives are illegal, such as switchblades, I don't see how a court would differentiate between restricting machine guns and restricting switch blades.
Not saying I agree with it, but I don't see how Heller will be much help in most cases.
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July 1st, 2008 02:49 PM
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