Another Disney Poll Needs Help--Miami Herald

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    Exclamation Another Disney Poll Needs Help--Miami Herald

    Poll is here: Disney's gun stance draws fire - 07/11/2008 - MiamiHerald.com

    Current results:

    Should Disney be able to stop employees from bringing guns to work?
    Yes. 222 55%
    No. 183 45%
    Total Votes: 405
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    Yes. 232
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    No. 202
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    Total Votes: 434
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    Well since the question is wether a private employeer can set conditions for its employees I had to vote yes.

    I don't think that it should be illegal for an employee or anyone else to carry a firearm at Disney. But if Disney wants to fire employees who bring a gun then I think they have that right, just as they have the right to fire an employee for failing a drug test or any other reason.
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    Bogus Question.

    Should Disney be able to stop employees from bringing guns to work?
    This is actually about being allowed to leave guns in their cars for their protection to and from work. By phrasing it the way they did people are equating it to asking "Should the guy in the Mickey Mouse costume be allowed to carry a gun?"

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    Where's the poll?

    N.M. it didn't load - reloading the page popped it up right under the photo.
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    I really don't like questions like this. They completely misrepresent the situation. Employees wouldn't be "bringing guns to work", they would be leaving their guns secured in their vehicles.

    One could reasonably expect that the question as worded: "Should Disney be able to stop employees from bringing guns to work?" would generate a different answer than "Should Disney be allowed to ignore FL state law and thus prevent employees from having handguns in their parked cars while said cars are parked on Disney property?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by pgrass101 View Post
    Well since the question is wether a private employeer can set conditions for its employees I had to vote yes.

    I don't think that it should be illegal for an employee or anyone else to carry a firearm at Disney. But if Disney wants to fire employees who bring a gun then I think they have that right, just as they have the right to fire an employee for failing a drug test or any other reason.
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    Its now:

    50% Yes
    50% No
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    I'll say it once and I will say it again: Property rights do not trump "inalienable rights granted to us by our creator".

    Whenever that happens to the extreme, you have a dictatorship and no human rights......
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    READ the article people !

    Its is not about the right of an employer to restrict arms on private property.

    It is about the right of the employees to leave a gun in their vehicle for protection driving to and from work or anything else they may do when away from work. A right protected by state law.

    Disney is using a little known clause in the law which says that anyone with an explosives license can restrict guns.Since they have one for their massive fireworks display, they are using that to prevent their employees from keeping their guns n the parking lot.

    Its semantics, pure and simple. and its a bunch of baloney.

    Disney has been traditionally anti gun and pro wrong in more ways than one. They don't care about the welfare of their employees or their customers.

    They care only about the almighty dollar.
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    Couldn't find poll.
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    It seems that they have removed the poll.

    And in reading the article (instead of just the poll question) Disney is choosing to keep its employees defensless
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    I couldn't get into the poll :(

    Thye must have removed it as the No's were outweighing the Yeses. Just like a lib organization. If you don't like the outcome, run away.............
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    Voted right away from the original link.

    330 / 45% Yes
    396 / 55% No (good)

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    poll is there (back?) under the picture
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