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    This is from the Prez of Gunsamerica.........

    Hi Everyone,

    We have had a lot of email into GunsAmerica and especially into our MySpace about voting for Barack Obama for president.

    Setting aside the socialist policy issues, and "spreading the money around" that you work for, everyone should be very clear about where Barack Obama stands on guns.

    This was taken from Gun Ban Barack Obama which is an NRA-ILA project, and it is available in PDF form at: http://www.nraila.org/media/PDFs/2008Obamafactsht.pdf

    FACT: Barack Obama opposes four of the five Supreme Court justices who affirmed an individual right to keep and bear arms. He voted against the confirmation of Alito and Roberts and he has stated he would not have appointed Thomas or Scalia.17

    FACT: Barack Obama voted for an Illinois State Senate bill to ban and confiscate "assault weapons," but the bill was so poorly crafted, it would have also banned most semi-auto and single and double barrel shotguns commonly used by sportsmen.18

    FACT: Barack Obama voted to allow reckless lawsuits designed to bankrupt the firearms industry.1

    FACT: Barack Obama wants to re-impose the failed and discredited Clinton Gun Ban.15

    FACT: Barack Obama voted to ban almost all rifle ammunition commonly used for hunting and sport shooting.3

    FACT: Barack Obama has endorsed a 500% increase in the federal excise tax on firearms and ammunition.9

    FACT: Barack Obama has endorsed a complete ban on handgun ownership.2

    FACT: Barack Obama supports local gun bans in Chicago, Washington, D.C., and other cities.4

    FACT: Barack Obama voted to uphold local gun bans and the criminal prosecution of people who use firearms in self-defense.5

    FACT: Barack Obama supports gun owner licensing and gun registration.6

    FACT: Barack Obama refused to sign a friend-of-the-court Brief in support of individual Second Amendment rights in the Heller case.

    FACT: Barack Obama opposes Right to Carry laws.7

    FACT: Barack Obama was a member of the Board of Directors of the Joyce Foundation, the leading source of funds for anti-gun organizations and "research."8

    FACT: Barack Obama supported a proposal to ban gun stores within 5 miles of a school or park, which would eliminate almost every gun store in America.9

    FACT: Barack Obama voted not to notify gun owners when the state of Illinois did records searches on them.10

    FACT: Barack Obama voted against a measure to lower the Firearms Owners Identification card age minimum from 21 to 18, a measure designed to assist young people in the military.11

    FACT: Barack Obama favors a ban on standard capacity magazines.12

    FACT: Barack Obama supports mandatory micro-stamping.13

    FACT: Barack Obama supports mandatory waiting periods.2

    FACT: Barack Obama supports repeal of the Tiahrt Amendment, which prohibits information on gun traces collected by the BATFE from being used in reckless lawsuits against firearm dealers and manufacturers.14

    FACT: Barack Obama supports one-gun-a-month handgun purchase restrictions.16

    FACT: Barack Obama supports a ban on inexpensive handguns.9

    FACT: Barack Obama supports a ban on the resale of police issued firearms, even if the money is going to police departments for replacement equipment.9

    FACT: Barack Obama supports mandatory firearm training requirements for all gun owners and a ban on gun ownership for persons under the age of 21.9

    1. United States Senate, S. 397, vote number 219, July 29, 2005. (U.S. Senate: Legislation & Records Home > Votes > Roll Call Vote)

    2. Independent Voters of Illinois/Independent Precinct Organization general candidate questionnaire, Sept. 9, 1996. The responses on this survey were described in "Obama had greater role on liberal survey," Politico, March 31, 2008. (Obama had greater role on liberal survey - Kenneth P. Vogel - Politico.com)

    3. United States Senate, S. 397, vote number 217, Kennedy amendment July 29, 2005. (U.S. Senate: Legislation & Records Home > Votes > Roll Call Vote)

    4. David Wright, Ursula Fahy and Sunlen Miller, "Obama: 'Common Sense Regulation' On Gun Owners' Rights," ABC News' "Political Radar" Blog, Political Punch, 2/15/08. (Political Radar: Obama: 'Common Sense Regulation' on Gun Owners' Rights)

    5. Illinois Senate, SB 2165, March 25, 2004, vote 20 and May 25, 2004, vote 3.

    6. "Fact Check: No News In Obama's Consistent Record." Obama '08, December 11, 2007. (Barack Obama and Joe Biden: The Change We Need)

    7. "Candidates' gun control positions may figure in Pa. vote," Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, Wednesday, April 2, 2008, and "Keyes, Obama Are Far Apart On Guns," Chicago Tribune, 9/15/04. (Candidates' gun control positions may figure in Pa. vote - Pittsburgh Tribune-Review)

    8. 1998 Joyce Foundation Annual Report, p. 7.

    9. "Obama and Gun Control," The Volokh Conspiracy, taken from the Chicago Defender, Dec. 13, 1999. (The Volokh Conspiracy - Obama and Gun Control:)

    10. Illinois Senate, May 5, 2002, SB 1936 Con., vote 26.

    11. Illinois Senate, March 25, 2003, SB 2163, vote 18.

    12. "Clinton, Edwards, Obama on gun control," Radio Iowa, Sunday, April 22, 2007. (Radio Iowa: Clinton, Edwards, Obama on gun control)

    13. Chicago Tribune blogs, "Barack Obama: NIU Shootings call for action," February 15, 2008, (The Swamp: Barack Obama: NIU shootings call for action)

    14. Barack Obama campaign website: "As president, Barack Obama would repeal the Tiahrt Amendment . . ." (Barack Obama and Joe Biden: The Change We Need | Urban Policy.)

    15. Illinois Senate Debate #3: Barack Obama vs. Alan Keyes (Barack Obama on Gun Control and Illinois Senate Debate #3: Barack Obama vs. Alan Keyes) Oct 21, 2004.

    16. Illinois Senate, May 16, 2003, HB 2579, vote 34.

    17. United States Senate vote 245, September 29, 2005 and vote 2, January 31, 2006 and Saddleback Forum, August 16, 2008.

    18. Illinois Senate Judiciary Committee, March 13, 2003. To see the vote tally go to: http://www.nrapvf.org/Media/pdf/sb1195_obama.pdf.

    Paul (Shlomo) Helinski
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    Where America Buys and Sells Guns.


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    This is no surprise.
    The NRA continues to expose this info.
    It should concern every gun owner in America...

    If you want to...Stay armed...VOTE!...stay safe!
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    Hmmm,

    But I thought the Jr. Senator from IL believes in individual gun ownership?

    Are you suggesting that he might be 'disingenuos?'
    Or, just inartful in some of his votes and earlier positions?

    I can't imagine that he doesn't mean what he says..............

    Yeah, right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by miklcolt45 View Post
    Hmmm,

    But I thought the Jr. Senator from IL believes in individual gun ownership?

    Are you suggesting that he might be 'disingenuos?'
    Or, just inartful in some of his votes and earlier positions?

    I can't imagine that he doesn't mean what he says..............

    Yeah, right.
    I'm not sure...let's have a vote on it!

    I'll vote..."PRESENT".
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    No, no, no, Hussein is for gun ownership; that is, the Government owns your guns !!!
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    The second rule: "Bring enough gun"

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    Quote Originally Posted by jfl View Post
    No, no, no, Hussein is for gun ownership; that is, the Government owns your guns !!!
    I hope you get all your family and friends out there in Florida to vote for McCain/Palin and keep this gun grabber out of office! We need all the help we can get in FL or any swing state especially!
    "If ever time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin."

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    We all ought to know by now. Still, get the word out. Sometimes it's never too late. Other times, you come up short. Timing is everything. I've already voted with a lot of other Americans.

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    Already early voted here in TX, got my brother and sister in law in Colorado, and a few friends in a few swing states.
    "If ever time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin."

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    Our Rights

    Obama is the greatist threat to our guns rights in our history and his running mate is an idiot. Despiet all the supposed polls I still have great faith in the American people. Altho some may be misguided by the retoric of the Dems the rest will shine through and put these two
    and their socialist plan for America where it belongs in the trash!


    God, Guns, and Guts we still have all three. Lets keep it that way

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    This just arrived from a fellow gun collector.

    http://www.nraila.org/media/PDFs/ope..._sportsmen.pdf

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    Already sent my Absentee Vote in. Here's to hoping that there's no "Barrack the Vote"!!!
    "Without fear there can be no Courage!"

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    No barackalypse!
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    We're just glad that Obama wasn't around when they were drafting the Constitution... which he (as a Senator) has sworn to uphold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagleks View Post
    We're just glad that Obama wasn't around when they were drafting the Constitution... which he (as a Senator) has sworn to uphold.
    Apparently he feels it is outdated! This nut needs to be defeated!
    "If ever time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin."

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    Quote Originally Posted by TX Husker Fan View Post
    I hope you get all your family and friends out there in Florida to vote for McCain/Palin and keep this gun grabber out of office! We need all the help we can get in FL or any swing state especially!
    I don't know about other areas in Florida - but the general site of CENTRAL Florida - is HEAVILY in favor of McCain.

    Mother is a tenured member of the public school system (over 20 years), and she swears to me that all of the usual demi's are ALL in support of Palin and her pro-education stance.

    ....don't the demi's usually pull a good portion of their votes from the school system? Uh oh...
    Some people don't deserve saving.

    ....the water is almost at a boil

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