The Mets are loaded
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Sluggers David Wright and Carlos Delgado are two of the city's newest young guns - both were ...
October 26th, 2008 03:32 PM
The Mets are loaded
Go ahead, Met fans - make their day.
Sluggers David Wright and Carlos Delgado are two of the city's newest young guns - both were granted pistol permits over the last year.
Wright's permit allows him to keep a handgun at his $6 million Flatiron District penthouse. The Met third baseman, a 25-year- old Virginia native, is no stranger to pistols; his father is a police chief.
First baseman Delgado, 36, applied for a permit to carry a gun - which was denied - but was granted permission to keep one in his Upper East Side apartment, according to a source familiar with the process.
Former Met Shawn Green, 35, also applied for a carry permit last year, but was denied, the source said.
Wright and Delgado, whose team has enraged and disappointed fans two years in a row with late-season collapses, are among some 36,000 people with gun permits in the Big Apple - a list that includes celebrities, billionaires and politicians.
The number of permits has dropped to 35,210, following a downward trend since 2003, when there were 41,173 active license holders, according to the NYPD, which issues the permits.
"The process can be intimidating and grueling. It may take up to 18 months," said Manhattan lawyer John Chambers, who has specialized in gun licenses for 20 years. "And New York is probably one of the most difficult cities in which to get a concealed-carry license."
It costs $340 to file a permit application, and there's a $94.25 fingerprinting fee.
Among those permitted to carry guns are Robert De Niro, artificial-heart inventor Robert Jarvik, Donald Trump and billionaire supermarket king John Catsimatidis.
To qualify for carry permits, applicants must show documented threats against them or prove that they routinely transport cash or valuables in business.
Carrying a firearm without a permit is a felony punishable by more than a year in prison. Permit holders must get them renewed every three years.
Gristedes grocery mogul Catsimatidis, who mulled an election run against anti-gun Mayor Bloomberg, has held a license for nearly 30 years, said spokesman Rob Ryan.
"He got it back then for the obvious reasons," Ryan said. "New York was a very different place back then. If the business lost a day's worth of receipts, it could drive him out of business."
Permit holder Alexis Stewart, daughter of homemaking queen and ex-convict Martha Stewart, told The Post that she applied for a gun license after 9/11.
She said she got a gun, now kept in a lockbox in her $3 million TriBeCa apartment, to euthanize her elderly dogs in the event that another calamity struck and forced her to abandon them.
"I had two very old English bulldogs," said Stewart, who hosts a show on her mother's Sirius Satellite Radio channel.
"They could never make it out of Manhattan. I could never leave my dogs to die of thirst in my apartment, so I looked on it as a euthanasia situation. I would never kill my pets unless they were going to die anyway."
Trump's sons, Eric and Donald Jr., also have permits to keep guns in their residences. His daughter, Ivanka, does not.
October 26th, 2008 03:32 PM
October 26th, 2008 03:51 PM
You have to have a permit just to HAVE a gun in your apartment? And $340 for the permit and $94.25 for fingerprinting is ourtrageous! $435-ish is an OUTRAGEOUS price to pay to exercise a right that is guaranteed to you!
Thats a far cry from North Dakota where total cost on my permit was a shade less than $55.
To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of people always possess arms, and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them...
Richard Henry Lee, 1787
October 26th, 2008 03:58 PM
Let me make sure I understand this.
Originally Posted by mrreynolds
Your average Joe can't have a gun since it evidently takes an attorney to make sure your permit is handled properly. But if you're someone famous you can have one so that you can euthanize your dogs!!?? Isn't it illegal to euthanize your dog yourself in NYC!!??
"Wise people learn when they can; fools learn when they must." - The Duke of Wellington
October 26th, 2008 06:02 PM
Only if your not a multi millionaire!
Originally Posted by matiki
Freedom doesn't come free. It is bought and paid for by the lives and blood of our men and women in uniform.
NRA Life Member
October 26th, 2008 09:49 PM
Well as a Mets fan it is nice to see they got ownership permits.
But isn't being famous (athlete, actor) a reasonable profession in which CCW should be granted?
Should David Wright or Carlos Delgado not be allowed to protect himself from a potentially crazy fan? After all, what is Robert DiNiro's excuse for being granted his permit?
NYC is a nightmare for CCW. NY in general is not a very friendly pistol state. You cannot even buy one without getting a permit first.
October 26th, 2008 10:28 PM
So what else is new?
That's the way it is in the two (NY & LA) largest cities in the nation. No CCW permits unless you are rich, famous or both.
If you're 'Joe the Plumber' you are SOL.
An armed populace are called citizens.
An unarmed populace are called subjects.
October 26th, 2008 11:16 PM
Back when I used to work there, someone had told me once that your first application to CCW is always denied-pretty much to see if you will appeal it. True or not, I don't know, but if you have to pay even more fees to appeal, then I have no trouble believing it.
October 27th, 2008 12:07 AM
If this stuff surprise you...don't get out to vote.
Coming soon to a neighborhood in your area...
Stay armed...VOTE...stay safe!
"That I cannot do."
"Give this to, uh, Clemenza. I want reliable people, people who aren't going to be carried away. After all we're not murderers in spite of what this undertaker thinks."
Certified Glock Armorer
NRA Life Member
October 27th, 2008 05:00 PM
Why is this published in the paper? Why does the public need to know that these players may be armed? Perhaps I'm being paranoid today, but why paint a target on these two guys?
October 27th, 2008 05:25 PM
This is why I posted this. Welcome from my crazy state. Once outside the 5 boros thing ease up the futher north and west of the city that you go. It is and always be the golden rule. Those with the gold will make the rules.
Originally Posted by Dany
October 27th, 2008 06:09 PM
You forgot to tell them that SELF DEFENSE is not justification to carry.....just for money....
Government's first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives.
October 27th, 2008 06:52 PM
i'd love to know how many otherwise law-abiding, tax paying citizens have to continually break the law to be safe in that city. my dad did it for 30 years.
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