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NRA Obama claims checked by factcheck.org

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    NRA Obama claims checked by factcheck.org

    factcheck.org is a non-partisan group who verifies-challenges Obama and McClain and other groups' campaign related statements. Yes they call out Obama on fact-deficient info too.

    Over the years I've found that BOTH Anti- and NRA info is often misleading or out right lies. No difference on this one.... here:

    FactCheck.org: NRA Targets Obama
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    For the NRA to state Senator Obama's plans as if they were positively stated facts is erroneous, yes. Whatever his real plans are, I am sure they are known only to his inner circle. My "proof" of anti-gun intent goes like this:

    1. All policitians lie and say whatever they think will get votes.
    2. Senator Obama is a politician.
    3. He has stated that he will not grab guns.

    Q.E.D.

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    Nothing misleading about the NRA's claims...apparently 'fact check' has not checked BO's anti-gun stance/voting record nor his anti-gun statements in earlier days. Pretty clear to me.
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    VOTING RECORD....nuff said.
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    Barack Obama on Gun Control

    Let the man speak for himself based on his past votes and statements. This fact checking site helps wade thru the lies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by riverkeeper View Post
    factcheck.org is a non-partisan group who verifies-challenges Obama and McClain and other groups' campaign related statements. Yes they call out Obama on fact-deficient info too.

    Over the years I've found that BOTH Anti- and NRA info is often misleading or out right lies. No difference on this one.... here:

    FactCheck.org: NRA Targets Obama
    I normally suggest to people, "stop drinking the Kool-Aid and think for yourself". Look at the facts and what is on record.

    Factcheck And Brady Campaign Share Same Sugar Daddy
    Gun BaN Obama

    Obama on Board That Funded Handgun Bans : NO QUARTER


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    A little food for thought.

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    OK.
    As Paul Simon wrote--
    ''A man believes what he wants to and disregards the rest''
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    Newer testament... Kill or Get Killed 1976/1987
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    If you have any doubts (and by this point I figure most folks have their minds made up one way or ta other) just remember WHERE Obama is from (Chicago) and WHO his political machine there are. But the above link I posted has his past statements on CCW, private ownership and government regulation as well as voting record. There is little doubt how disarmament is his political BENT.

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    Bottom line here folks is that he is probably going to be our next Prez. Some have posted that they think he won't have time to mess with guns because he will be too busy with other stuff. That may be so, but if he is the miracle worker that some believe he is, all those problems will be solved in no time and then we'll see his true colors on gun control. Unless there is a majority of Dems in congress, our only hope is to be as active as we can be at Congressional elections and try to convert those who are on the fence to our way of thinking. I know in PA gun sales are up a good bit because people are worried about increased crime with the economy going south. I would surmise this will be good for us.

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    Things he can do in 4 years:

    1. Any Supreme Court openings will be filled with Liberal (read into the Constitution anything they want to) Justices.
    2. Encourage all state and local governments to REGULATE everything that has to do with guns.
    I live in California and believe me the Politicians are systematically regulating the gun shops out of existance. Hardly any guns are "approved" for sale here, the fees and paperwork are like wading thru quiksand. The whole nation can go as California has gone on REGULATION.

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    Factcheck.org is about as far left as you can go without falling off the Earth
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supertac45 View Post
    Factcheck.org is about as far left as you can go without falling off the Earth
    +1

    It is interesting that many are fooled by benign sounding names like Media Matters and the New York Times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supertac45 View Post
    Factcheck.org is about as far left as you can go without falling off the Earth
    Amen! Factcheck has used Obama's web site and campaign as the source to prove McCain ads are not true. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.

    Obama campaigns as pro-gun, but has voted anti-gun every opportunity. So, you can believe what he says or believe what he has done.

    If Obama is elected and has the necessary majorities in the House and Senate, the first Freedom we will loose is the Freedom of speech (reinstitution of the "Fairness Doctrine by the FCC), Amendment 1 of the U.S. Constitution. With that out of the way he will go after he will go after Amendment 2. Probably not by an out and out frontal assaulth but through Federal Firearms taxes, magazine capacity restrictions, Federal Ammunition taxes, etc.

    Remember his Vice-president authored the Assault Weapons Ban of the '90's. They are already working on a "new and improved" version.
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    Factcheck.org

    Registrant Name:Brooks Jackson
    Registrant Organization:Annenberg Public Policy Center, UPenn
    Registrant Street1:320 National Press Building
    Registrant Street2:
    Registrant Street3:
    Registrant City:Washington
    Registrant State/Province:DC
    Registrant Postal Code:20045
    Registrant Country:US

    At the same address we find.... The National Press Club.

    Brooks Jackson is/was a CNN senior correspondent and has been a journalist in DC for 34+ years.

    We keep coming back to the Press and Journalists in Washington DC.

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