It has started in VA -- This years Anti Bills

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    It has started in VA -- This years Anti Bills



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    THE FIRST OF WHAT WILL BE MANY ANTI-GUN BILLS IS ALREADY IN THE HOPPER!

    Bill Tracking - 2009 session > Legislation
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    Contact your legislature and the Governor. Google their names or posiions and you will get contact information

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    That one has come up every year since pre-emption was done and Fairtax County couldn't ban CHP holders from carrying to their BoD meetings.
    Procrastinators are the leaders of tomorrow.

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    Lets start firing up the email machines and let them know what we think guys.

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    My fingers are numb by now searching and typing names and addresses of people!

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    Talking We had a good day.



    FYI

    From the VA-ALERT is a project of the Virginia Citizens Defense League, Inc.

    >>
    The Capitol Police said that there were easily 500 gun owners at the
    first VCDL rally at the General Assembly today!

    Oh, and there was a grand total of TWO anti-gun protesters there
    today, neither one looking very happy.

    The remaining part of the roll of "Guns Save Lives" stickers that were
    handed out indicates that the total count of VCDL members that were at
    the General Assembly today was right at 600 - that's a 50% increase
    from last year's 400 attendees!

    Everywhere I turned, there were those VCDL stickers. Teams of VCDL
    members were going in and out of legislator's offices for two hours.

    From what I've seen and heard, we were well received everywhere.

    The rallies at the Bell Tower had some fantastic speakers and the
    weather cooperated nicely - those of you who could not make it this
    year really missed out. :-(

    We should have some great videos of Lobby Day and the rallies soon and
    I will let you know when they are on-line. The videos were made by
    Matt Gotschalk and Ian Branson, so they are going to be really great.

    Others members took some video, too - so there will be even more video
    online in the coming days.

    Special thanks to EM Dave Vann for doing a great job in getting guest
    speakers and playing a critical role in keep the event moving with
    near perfection.

    Thanks also to EM Chip Fetrow for getting the PA system up and running
    and keeping it so. The sound out there was truly fantastic.

    Here is an excellent picture of the first rally that will give you an
    idea of the attendance - pretty damned impressive:

    http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/attachment.php?id=4889

    Here is the press coverage, some articles have video if you follow the
    link to their web sites:

    --

    WDBJ7 Roanoke News and Weather NRV Lynchburg Danville | Gun rights advocates rally in Richmond

    Guns rights advocates rallied Monday at Capitol Square in Richmond.

    They were there to be heard as delegates and senators prepare to take
    up gun bills this session.

    Those who support gun rights listened to speakers at the Bell Tower
    before fanning out to talk to individual legislators about guns
    rights.

    They say false impressions about gun shows and gun dealers have been
    created, and they hope to set the record straight.

    "There is no loophole. There is nothing you can do at a gun show that
    you can't do outside a show. It would have made no difference at
    Virginia Tech. It's just a scheme to register guns and we are not
    going to let it pass by," says Phillip Van Cleave, a rally organizer.

    "Sometimes people meet at gun shows, but otherwise a dealer must do a
    background check. It's a felony if he doesn't," says Ward Fetrow with
    the Virginia Citizens Defense League.

    There have already been two meetings of the crime commission this year.

    The meetings have been packed.

    Last week in Richmond, some Virginia Tech parents and others seeking
    to close the gun show loophole held a rally of their own.

    Both sides will try to get legislators to support their views during
    the legislative session.

    --

    Gun-rights backers rally today at Va. Capitol | Richmond Times-Dispatch

    Gun-rights backers rally today at Va. Capitol

    By Staff Reports

    Published: January 19, 2009

    Members of the Virginia Citizens Defense League plan to meet at the
    state Capitol in Richmond today at 9 a.m. to lobby the General
    Assembly.

    The league is opposed to any new gun laws and wants a repeal of the
    state's ban on carrying concealed weapons in restaurants.

    The league also plans to hold two rallies at the Bell Tower on the
    Capitol grounds.

    --

    Pro-Gun Legislation /

    Pro-Gun Legislation

    Gun owners from across the state are planning to converge on the
    General Assembly Monday to lobby for several pro-gun bills. While they
    say they think guns will curb violence in state, others aren't so
    sure.

    It's an age-old debate asking question about allowing guns on
    campuses, in restaurants and even in elementary schools. The General
    Assembly will decide some of these issues as several bills cross the
    table this session.

    Ben Fordney, former member of the Board of the Virginians Against
    Handgun Violence, says, "On school grounds? I mean, come on. We've had
    terrible incidents on school grounds of people who have weapons."

    Fordney says residents concealing weapons isn't the answer, but not
    everyone agrees.

    Philip van Cleave, president of the VA Citizens Defense League, says,
    "They forbid students and faculty to bring guns on campus and nobody
    had any except the person who wanted to commit murder. Nothing was
    going to effect him except somebody might have been able to stop him
    had any of those students and teachers been armed."

    Van Cleave supports bills that would repeal a ban on carrying
    concealed handguns in restaurants licensed to serve alcohol, allowing
    concealed permit holders to enter K-12 schools, and permitting
    full-time college faculty members to be exempt from any college
    administrative rules against carrying weapons on campus.

    He says, "Why walk around in a crowded restaurant with a gun on your
    side when you can have it neatly concealed away where no one even
    knows it's there and not make an issue out of it."

    On the other hand, Fordney says, in places where guns are regulated,
    the violence is extremely low, especially when you consider that more
    than 32,000 people are killed by gunshots every year.

    He says, "I'm not sure why I understand why that's necessary in a
    place like Harrisonburg for example, but okay, that's their right. But
    there are situations where it's not simply a good idea."

    The Virginia Citizens Defense League will hold two rallies in Capitol
    Square in Richmond on Monday.

    --

    CBS 6 - WTVR, Richmond Va - Guns on Hand at State Capitol

    Guns on Hand at State Capitol


    The mission was simple Monday for dozens of members of the Virginia
    Citizens'
    Defense League, (a group that supports 2nd amendment rights), slap on an
    orange sticker, grab an agenda, and find your local legislator.

    "We have teams that are going to break up and they're going to visit
    every
    single legislator that is in the building today," remarked Mark
    Stollenwerk, a
    VCDL organizer.

    Impassioned group members roamed the hallways of the General Assembly
    building, showcasing their support for legislation that would allow
    concealed
    handgun permit holders to carry in restaurants and on school grounds.

    The gun rights advocates, many of whom drove for hours to lobby
    lawmakers,
    hope their very presence will speak volumes.

    "People come out and say whether they're for or against something, and
    it
    means something," noted VCDL member Marco Handy. "Anybody can sit home
    and not
    show up. But you want (lawmakers) to know that you really support this
    or
    oppose it."

    So, how influential can a capitol visit be?

    "Obviously the live visit shows a certain level of commitment," remarked
    House Majority Leader Morgan Griffith. "If you're making a three-hour
    drive down
    here, and then a three-hour drive back home, obviously you care very
    passionately about the issue."

    On issue that did not gain much attention was the so-called gun show
    loophole, which Delegate Griffith described as "dead" after the State
    Crime
    Commission failed to endorse the measure.

    --

    Hundreds at Richmond rally to back pro-gun bills | HamptonRoads.com | PilotOnline.com

    Hundreds at Richmond rally to back pro-gun bills


    By _Dave Forster_ (Dave Forster | HamptonRoads.com | PilotOnline.com)
    The Virginian-Pilot
    January 20, 2009
    RICHMOND
    About 300 people rallied Monday at the Virginia Capitol to support the
    many
    pro-gun-rights bills that have been introduced this session.

    Concern over those rights is especially high this year after the
    election of
    Barack Obama, perceived by some as a gun control proponent, said rally
    participant Sam Beatty, 30, a Marine veteran from Henrico County.

    "The last several gun shows that I've been to, I've seen them just more
    packed than I've ever seen them in the past 10 years - people buying
    just cases
    upon cases of ammunition, firearms," Beatty said.

    The Virginia Citizens Defense League has highlighted as priorities
    this year
    legislation that would allow people with concealed handgun permits to
    carry
    their concealed firearms into restaurants that serve alcohol, HB1821,
    and
    schools, HB1822.

    Another bill, HB1655, would require a court to award attorney fees and
    costs
    to anyone who wins a case challenging a local gun control measure.




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    I really like how VCDL gets the word out...wish other states were as proactive.

    Rick

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    Lobbing

    BTW --

    I was a team leader again this year and seven Senators (or their legislative aid) were very pro-Second Amendment. Only one, of the eight, was a bit soft -- not anti, but a bit soft.

    What a relief. The job was a piece of cake. I really got a kick out of the "Good point. I hadn't focused on that." They were also very receptive to our pointing out where the State could save money (in these very tight times) by not duplicating federal record keeping, regulation -- for example "Where is the value-added, or the cost-benefit to the State in regulating / registering suppressors?" "Why accept unfunded Federal mandates such a 'Real ID'?" Etc.

    Last year I was assigned to lead a team on the House side. My assignments were about 60-40 pro to soft/anti. Last year was not as much fun. More challenging. But maybe more important.

    After the rallies, I went to see my own Senator and Delegate. Both are strongly Pro.
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    Va Citizens & Residents

    More from a VA-ALERT.

    VA-ALERT is a project of the Virginia Citizens Defense League, Inc.

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    URGENT ACTION ITEM

    VCDL needs you to send an email to your Delegate supporting those 3
    bills! We have made it super-easy to do so. Just click on the link
    below and send a prewritten message (the computer will figure out who
    your Delegate is automatically):

    VCDL's 2008 "Write Your Legislators" Tool

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    Veni, Vidi, Velcro

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    Thumbs up Great Video

    Great Video of much of the Rallies at the VA State House is up on the VCDL Web site:

    Virginia Citizens Defense League, Inc. (VCDL)


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    Ill tell you why

    I like the comment on I don't know why you need it in harrisonburg. We have on of the largest population of Mexicans ( I don't totaly mean this in a mean way) And a lot of them are not citizens and some are very dangerous. Look at all the drug related crime they cause.I carry every day and always will. We have had several instances where members of biker gangs will single out people especially at night and for some reason especially at Walmart parking lots. Harrisonburg is a growing and expanding place. Which brings more crime, look at all of the meth, busts within Rockingham County. They just brought a Federal Court to Harrisonburg due to all or the drug busts and drug related activities. Just a few months ago there was a bust on a meth house, now I live in the country on the out skirts or Hburg. 8 houses down always herd auto fire from a rifle,no big deal. Some people have licenses for that. Turns out it was a meth house and the feds had been watching it for a year. He had over 100 guns some automatic and over 10,000 rounds of ammo.No big deal if your not insane and on meth. So dont tell me we don,t need these laws. Sorry it was so long winded.

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