Canada's Crime Rate 50 % Higher than U.S.

Canada's Crime Rate 50 % Higher than U.S.

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    Canada's Crime Rate 50 % Higher than U.S.

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    Canada's Crime Rate 50 % Higher than U.S.
    Tuesday, Jan. 24, 2006 2:59 p.m. EST

    Press reports that Canada is a Shangri-la – an America with free health care and less crime – may be short sighted.

    In fact, statistics show that the violent crime rate there is double that of the United States.

    It seems Canada is looking for a scapegoat, too: Outgoing Canadian Prime Minister Paul Martin is blaming the United States for his country’s violent crime wave. He says his southern neighbor is eagerly bringing guns over the border.

    According to the Second Amendment Foundation’s Alan Gottlieb, writing in the Fort Worth Star-Telegram, Martin is wrong for blaming Canada’s rise in violent crime on criminals smuggling guns from the United States.

    Gottlieb says the blame instead belongs on Canadian crooks getting guns from wherever they can.

    "Blaming the United States for Canadian crime is an argument that does not pass the smell test,” Gottlieb wrote. "Canada's experience has simply demonstrated that no matter what kind of gun control law a government passes, that law is doomed to failure because instead of keeping guns out of the wrong hands, the law disarms the wrong people. Canada's gun control scheme has not just failed - it has failed disastrously. Clear evidence of that can be found in a comparison of the crime rates for Canada and America.”

    Gottlieb cites an article by Canada's National Post columnist David Frum where he revealed that "Canada's overall crime rate is now 50 percent higher than the crime rate in the United States.” Moreover, "Since the early 1990s, crime rates have dropped in 48 of the 50 states and 80 percent of American cities. Over that same period, crime rates have risen in six of the 10 Canadian provinces and in seven of Canada’s 10 biggest cities.”

    He also cites the most recent complete data available from both countries that shows that in 2003, the violent crime rate in the United States was 475 per 100,000 people; while up north, there were 963 violent crimes per 100,000 people. The figure for sexual assault in Canada per 100,000 people was more than double that of the United States: 74 as opposed to 32.1; and the assault rate in Canada was also more than twice that of the states: 746 to America's 295 for the people.

    Moreover, he cites research that showed the figure for sexual assault in Canada per 100,000 people was more than double that of the United States: 74 as opposed to 32.1; and the assault rate in Canada was more than twice that of the United States: 746 to America’s 295. Also, in 2005, Toronto had 78 murders; that’s a 28 percent increase in homicides since 1995.

    "The situation hasn't improved for Canada; it has here,” he wrote.

    "Moreover, this shift in crime rates between the two countries has occurred while dozens of U.S. states have adopted ‘right-to-carry’ and ‘shall-issue’ handgun laws. During the same period, Canada’s gun laws have gotten more restrictive, with the national gun registry being implemented,” he added.

    "Since declaring war on guns under former Prime Minister Jean Chretien, Canada's Liberals have presided over the sharpest rise in violent crime in the nation’s history.”

    Gottlieb wrote that "Frum put it best when he claimed, ‘Gun registration and gun bans ... do not work,’ adding later: ‘It is not guns from across the border that threaten Canadians. It is the weak and cynical policies of home-grown politicians, and especially the Chretien/Martin Liberals.’”

    Martin and the Liberals are not the solution to violent crime in Canada, Gottlieb wrote. "They're the problem.”

    Gottlieb concluded that "the disparity in crime rates says it all about how well gun registration works to stop crime, as opposed to actually carrying guns to deter criminals, and fighting back if necessary.”
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    Thanks for this piece of news...they are those who wouldn't believe it if it weren't in the paper or on TV. More of this needs to be "out there" if we are to get a handle on crime and being able to defend ourselves 24/7.
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    HA! Take that, socialist government!

    I feel sorry for my Canadian aquaintances though. They all HATE the gun laws there.

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    It seems Canada is looking for a scapegoat, too: Outgoing Canadian Prime Minister Paul Martin is blaming the United States for his country?s violent crime wave. He says his southern neighbor is eagerly bringing guns over the border.
    Well, I daresay there is a ''healthy'' movement of guns via criminal channels - as there probably always has been. As for ''eagerly'' - that is media hype!

    The gun situation in Canada seems to be very oppressive and possibly fast heading toward catching up the UK and Aus. Wonderful news for the crooks, who will naturally, always have their sources for guns - and considering the border, what is more likely than criminal traffic in guns from here.

    But don't blame the county itself for goodness' sake!!
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    A little off topic

    No offense to Candians, but I relish the delicious irony of how much of their country is a rural, almost backwater nation in places (ours is too), and that most Canadians live that way, and yet, the highly industrialized United States is the savage third world country they share a border with. Ours is a wild land with charred black forests that grow out of the golgotha, and snakes as long as men slither about while outlaws ride unopposed Mad Max style to sneak evil guns from Satan to the Canadian border.

    PUH-leeeese.

    Most Canucks I've met individually have more sense than that (also most Canucks I've met are nice people to boot), but their media is just as biased and slanted as ours, if not worse.

    I have chatted with one Canadian who honestly thought we had shoot outs in the streets daily in Texas.

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    I have chatted with one Canadian who honestly thought we had shoot outs in the streets daily in Texas.
    You could find Euc that the major part of Europe thinks about the same!
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    I lived 23 miles from the border of rural Quebec for 18 years. I had almost daily dealings with the Canadian people. The only people that were in favor of their strict gun laws were the very rich and/or politicians. The average "Joe" wanted the laws to be more like the US. As a sidenote---most of them absolutely hated their form of socialized medicine. They felt that it was for the rich also. Also allot of their medical care IS NOT free.-------

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