Could the AWB be an exective order?

[cdwolf]

Can the president sign the AWB into law?
Would it have to have a grandfather clause or could he word it in a way that would make all magazines capable of holding more then ten rounds illegal?
This would surely put most of us on the wrong side of said "Law".

[DefensiveCarry.com]

[SIGguy229]

EOs only affect the Executive Branch....and the employees thereof. They cannot force the Legislative branch or Judicial branch, nor the states to do anything.

[cdwolf]

EOs only affect the Executive Branch....and the employees thereof. They cannot force the Legislative branch or Judicial branch, nor the states to do anything.

OK.. so it would have to go through the House and Senate.
For some reason I still don't feel warm and fuzzy

[BAC]

No. This has been discussed before. Please use the search function.


-B

[Janq]

The most famous, or infamous per some folks view, Presidential Executive Order was the Emancipation Proclamation.

Featured Document: The Emancipation Proclamation
Emancipation Proclamation - Wikipedia

ThisNation.com--What is an Executive Order?
Executive Orders and Presidential Memoranda
Executive Order (United States) - Wikipedia

The Executive Order: A Presidential Power not designated by the Constitution
Executive Orders Disposition Tables Index

Presidential Executive Orders definitely can, have, and if drafted with such intent do apply to more than the Executive branch and are law of the land for the nation inclusive of all states, without oversight or input from Congress.

It all depends on how the order is drafted, as signed.

- Janq

[cdwolf]

Thanks for the input BAC

I was a little pressed for time and my Googlefu is weak, So I leaned on the forum.

Thanks Janq, That is what I was looking for.


Without Congressional approval, the President now has the power to transfer whole populations to any part of the country, the power to suspend the Press and to force a national registration of all persons. The President, in essence, has dictatorial powers never provided to him under the Constitution. The President has the power to suspend the Constitution and the Bill of Rights in a real or perceived emergency. Unlike Lincoln and Roosevelt, these powers are not derived from a wartime need, but from any crisis, domestic or foreign, hostile or economic. Roosevelt created extraordinary measures during the Great Depression, but any President faced with a similar, or lesser, economic crisis now has extraordinary powers to assume dictatorial status.

[ccw9mm]

EOs only affect the Executive Branch....and the employees thereof.

You sure about that? Isn't an EO being proposed to close the Guantanamo prison?

[BAC]

Thanks for the input BAC

I was a little pressed for time and my Googlefu is weak, So I leaned on the forum.

Did you try the forum's search function?

http://www.defensivecarry.com/vbulle...-citizens.html

http://www.defensivecarry.com/vbulle...pons-ammo.html

http://www.defensivecarry.com/vbulle...ive-order.html

http://www.defensivecarry.com/vbulle...tml#post953760


-B

[JOHNSMITH]

You sure about that? Isn't an EO being proposed to close the Guantanamo prison?

I was under the impression that was done under Obama's authority as Commander-In-Chief, since it is a military prison.

[cdwolf]

He can do whatever he wants in an economic crisis.
That's just the way I read it... I've been wrong before



The President has the power to suspend the Constitution and the Bill of Rights in a real or perceived emergency. Unlike Lincoln and Roosevelt, these powers are not derived from a wartime need, but from any crisis, domestic or foreign, hostile or economic.


Bac..............................

[BAC]

Did you read any of those links? Those were in the first page of a search resulting from the words "executive order". Executive orders are not all they're cracked up to be, though they can be misused. I recommend reading the discussions (they're good, if you're interested in the subject).

What you're describing cdwolf, has nothing to do with executive orders or economic hardships, and only applies if the legislature cannot convene (see Article 4, Sec 4 of the US Constitution). I think you're mixing up powers and when they apply. No executive order, ever, carries more force than the US Constitution.


-B