Gun Control Does Not Work...Some Proof

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    The Truth about Strict Firearms Laws!

    Would a firearms ban really be the answer to all our crime problems? Check out these statistics and you may decide that it would not be the right choice.

    New Jersey adopted what sponsors described as “the most stringent gun law” in the nation in 1966; two years later, the murder rate was up 46% and the reported robbery rate had nearly doubled.

    In 1968, Hawaii imposed a series of increasingly harsh measures, and its murder rate tripled from a low of 2.4 per 100,000 in 1968 to 7.2 by 1977.

    In 1976, Washington, D.C., enacted one of the most restrictive gun control laws in the nation. Since then, the city’s murder rate has risen 134% while the national murder rate has dropped 2%.

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    Over 50% of American households own guns, despite government statistics showing the number is approximately 35%, because guns not listed on any government roll were not counted during the gathering of data.

    Evanston, Illinois, a Chicago suburb of 75,000 residents, became the largest town to ban handgun ownership in September 1982 but experienced no decline in violent crime.

    Among the 15 states with the highest homicide rates, 10 have restrictive or very restrictive gun laws.
    Twenty percent of U.S. homicides occur in four cities with just 6% of the population-New York, Chicago, Detroit and Washington, D.C.-and each has (or, in the case of Detroit, had until 2001) a virtual prohibition on private handguns.

    UK banned private ownership of most handguns in 1997, previously held by an estimated 57,000 people-0.1% of the population. Since 1998, the number of people injured by firearms in England and Wales has more than doubled. In 2005-06, of 5,001 such injuries, 3,474 (69%) were defined as “slight,” and a further 965 (19%) involved the “firearm” being used as a blunt instrument. Twenty-four percent of injuries were caused with air guns, and 32% with “imitation firearms” (including soft air guns). Since 1998, the number of fatal shootings has varied between 49 and 97, and was 50 in 2005. Since 2003 gun crime rates have actually fallen to about their 2000 level. In Scotland the picture has been more varied with no pattern of rise or fall appearing. The lowest rate of gun crime was in 2004 whilst the highest was in 1994.

    Violent crime accelerated in Jamaica after handguns were heavily restricted and a special Gun Court established.

    Information gathered from Wikipedia 01-03-2009
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    I don't know if you listen to Phil Valentine or not (may not even get him in your area), but he produced an interesting statistic one day. The top 10 cities with the highest crime rates are ALL in blue counties in blue states.

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    Will try and find him. The stats just show that it is easy to say gun control stops crime, but it just does not pan out. It is a simple mans reaction to a problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by concealed View Post
    Will try and find him. The stats just show that it is easy to say gun control stops crime, but it just does not pan out. It is a simple mans reaction to a problem.
    Actually, the real gun control zealots, such as the Brady group, know the real statistics fully well, but don't care. They either ignore, lie about or distort the statistics to serve their goal of banning the ownership of guns in this country.
    "It does not do to leave a dragon out of your calculations, if you live near him."

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    Statistics is all about making numbers represent what you want them to represent. Trusting statistics is kind of like trusting a politician.

    These are made up examples to illustrate a point.

    95% of all gun related murders are by hand guns. Hand guns are bad we need to get rid of them :)

    10 percent of all murders are by guns. Hmmm, know 95% of 10% means that ~9 out of 100 murders are by a hand gun. Doesn't sounds so bad does it.

    What number do you think the antis and media are going to talk about.

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    That’s the problem with statistics…

    Most of the time, they are manipulated by the one giving them to you, so it fits their agenda.

    And The Brady bunch are particularly good at it

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    Criminals have weapons, attitude and resolve to do what they'll do. That increases, when fewer upstanding folks relinquish some of each.

    My question: What possible good comes from disarming victims?

    My answer: More victims, and victims that don't last as long. Though, that's about as good as it gets. Pretty bad.

    My solution: Arm everyone to the teeth; invest in defensive training for everyone for a year; pass "castle" type protections covering the defensive use of weapons to keep a family safe, including reimbursement of fees and shielding from civil suits if "no-billed"; kick the death penalty into high gear and stop screwing around with early release, for the bad eggs. The result? Fewer victims, more criminals failing in what they do, and more violent criminals terminated from society ... one way or the other.
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    Gun control reduces the common man ability to defend himself against small
    and large enemies.Firearms in the hands of citizens keeps governments in check
    history proves this.

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    It has be proven that gun control does not have any impact upon crime. The Canadain goverment admitted this after their gun registration act turned into a fiasco
    “You can sway a thousand men by appealing to their prejudices quicker than you can convince one man by logic.”

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    gun control reduce crime???? I think not

    anyway all of this information came in handy elsewhere tonight so thanks for the posting

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    I totally agree ccw9mm, hit it right on the head
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