Anti-gun bias at public library.

Anti-gun bias at public library.

This is a discussion on Anti-gun bias at public library. within the The Second Amendment & Gun Legislation Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; I had an enlightening encounter at the public library earlier today that I wasn't expecting. Being new to CC, I was interested in deepening my ...

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    Anti-gun bias at public library.

    I had an enlightening encounter at the public library earlier today that I wasn't expecting. Being new to CC, I was interested in deepening my understanding of second ammendment issues, gun rights, etc. so I would be able to intellegently advocate for my positions and to become more knowledable on the subject. I researched online and came up with a number of titles that were recommended reading on the subject and set off to the library. (Seemed like a logical place to go if you are interested in finding books.) When I got there I started looking up titles using their computerized cataloguing system and was quickly dismayed that every single title I looked for was "zero results found", nothing, nada. Well, I thought, maybe I was just looking for the wrong books; maybe the list I had compiled wasn't as well known or highly recommended as I thought. So I decided to take a different approach and lookup anything they had on the topic. Well, it turned out that they had lot's of books on Second Ammendment issues...All of them anti-gun and anti-second ammendment. Titles like, "Why Gun Control is Necessary for your Safety", and "NRA: Armed and Dangerous", and many other similarly titled offerings.
    So I decided to go to the librarian desk and ask for some assistance. I explained my predicament and told her that I must be doing something wrong and asked for help finding what I was looking for. She explained to me that they generally didn't carry books on gun rights or second ammendment rights because lots of children used the library. I was astounded! You mean you think that there is something objectionable or obscene about the Second Ammendment to the Constitution that we need to protect our kids from finding out about? Then she explained to me that it was really a budget issue; they couldn't afford to buy books on the subject. This isn't Hooterville, it's a big city with a new modern library; fairly large on at that. I told her that it appeared that they had lots of books that took the anti-gun and anti-second ammendment position. I told her that it sounds more like the person responsible for their book acquisitions was basing their choices on their own political bias rather than trying to be balanced. With that, she asked me for my list and told me she would call me if they get anything in. I guess they think anyone who is pro-second ammendment must be an uneducated boob who doesn't know how to read.
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    Sad state of affairs. I haven't (unfortunately) made it to my local library to look for those same books, but in the event that I do and find a similar situation I would start working my complaints up the chain.
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    This is an interesting subject which I had never given much thought before.

    Given the budget cuts we are certainly going to see in the very near future on all levels of government, I think it's quite important that we make our voices heard.

    If 2A related books are requested with extreme infrequency, they have no reason to keep any in our libraries.

    It might have less to do with the personal bias of the "book chooser" as it does with the average library user.
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    At my county library (my city doesn't have one) there's plenty of gun related books and even periodicals. In fact, I've checked out most of the 2A and SD related books I've read from that Library.

    And... now that I think about it. When I lost my library card, I had to present two pieces of ID because my DL had my old address on it. My second piece of ID was my CPL, to which the librarian joked, "ID doesn't get much more official than that!"

    I'm sorry your library doesn't offer the same type of experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Headshrinker View Post
    Then she explained to me that it was really a budget issue; they couldn't afford to buy books on the subject.
    I call BS on her answer. I bet you go find all kinds of crap, porn, junk in there.

    Try this, just for grins, buy up a couple of copies of some of the books you were looking for and then donate them to the library, budget issue solved. See if they get put on the shelves or not.
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    That sounds like a good idea. I think I might just do that after I read them.
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    now I'm curious, I'll have to go and see what they have on the subject. After all, I live in a (mostly) pro 2A area.
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    She's also a liar--there were the anti-gun items that you mentioned. So her saying that they didn't have books like that because of their concern for children is Bravo Sierra soup. It is bias, pure and simple.

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    I got all my required paperwork for CCP (recommendations and notarizations) done at our local public library!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paco View Post
    Try this, just for grins, buy up a couple of copies of some of the books you were looking for and then donate them to the library, budget issue solved. See if they get put on the shelves or not.
    No, sorry. My wife works at the county library and I wanted to donate perfectly good, only read once, hard cover books. It doesn't matter the subject, they will accept them to resell at "Friends of the Library" fund raisers, but they won't accept them into the library system because they have to have about a dozen copies for multiple branches or they don't consider it worth the processing cost.

    It sounds crazy, but that's the way they work!

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    My college library has several titles by Dr. Lott, Cleck, and even a few books by Mr. Ayoob. I haven't looked at any yet; I want to though. I have no time to read extra stuff during the semester, however.

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    Lightbulb Inter-library loan?

    Quote Originally Posted by paul34 View Post
    My college library has several titles by Dr. Lott, Cleck, and even a few books by Mr. Ayoob. I haven't looked at any yet; I want to though. I have no time to read extra stuff during the semester, however.
    This brings up a good point.

    My local library does inter-library loan requests from all the College Libraries in the State, a few out-of-State College Libraries, and a few other local Libraries.

    Now, you might want to ask for an inter-library loan of your titles.

    You might get what you want.

    You might find out more about bias.
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    Our library lets you request books to buy. i suggest you submit a request and also a letter stating your concern about their "censorship" to the head of the Library, the mayor and your congressman, make sure your list of c.c. is on each letter.

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    Headshrinker signing off for the night. Gotta work tomorrow.
    Thanks for all the comments and suggestions.
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    I would also consider adding the NRA and any other pro-2a orginization to the c.c. on any letter sent.

    Heck, I would probably send letters to the pro-2a organizations anyway. It seems to me that the library is not only censoring the pro-2a books but they are biased against it by having titles in the library that take an oppositional position. I would ask the NRA to contact the Head librarian and goverment officials on your behalf.

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