Restaurant guns bill headed to Kaine's desk

Restaurant guns bill headed to Kaine's desk

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    Post Restaurant guns bill headed to Kaine's desk

    Restaurant guns bill headed to Kaine's desk

    03:36 PM EST on Wednesday, February 25, 2009

    Associated Press

    RICHMOND (AP) -- A bill to allow those with concealed-carry permits to take hidden guns into restaurants as long as they don't drink is on its way to the governor, who has rejected it before.

    The Senate voted 24-14 Wednesday to send Sen. Emmett Hanger's bill to Gov. Timothy M. Kaine, who vetoed it last year. The vote was three shy of the two-thirds majority needed to override a veto.

    The House took out a requirement that the person inform someone at the restaurant that he was carrying a concealed weapon. The Senate agreed to that change.

    Currently, guns can be taken into restaurants as long as they are out in the open.


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    Sooooooo.......... You'd have to inform the owner or manager you are carrying? Then what? They warn the waitress/waiter ? The manager holds your hand and makes sure you don't drink?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kentuckycarry View Post
    Sooooooo.......... You'd have to inform the owner or manager you are carrying? Then what? They warn the waitress/waiter ? The manager holds your hand and makes sure you don't drink?
    None issue, you saw it was removed from the bill right?

    There was a long thread on this but I can't find it now. Is it expected to be signed or vetoed again?
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    I would guess the Governor will veto it again. He has made his views on guns quite clear on many occasions. That being said I did e-mail him, urging him to sign it.

    I am writing to urge you to sign SB1035 (removal of conceal carry ban in restaurants) bill into law. As someone who is licensed to carry a concealed handgun in Virginia, I have undergone firearms safety training, and passed a rigorous criminal background check. Like thousands of other law abiding citizens of Virginia, we have proven ourselves to be trustworthy. Last year when you vetoed the bill you stated you vetoed it because "guns and alcohol don't go together". The bill specifically prohibits anyone from carrying into a restaurant and drinking alcoholic beverages.
    Again I urge you to allow respect the wishes of the people and sign this bill into law.
    Thank you for your time.

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    Here's mine.........

    Sir,
    Please sign the legislation recently passed to allow honest, law-abiding citizens the right to protect themselves in a restaurant environment. If the courts have decided that we permit holders are upstanding and capable to intrust concealed carry to us in the first place, what difference does the venue make?
    Do the right thing. Trust you courts and citizenry.
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    You guys are forgetting to add that Kaine passed a bill that allows non permit holding Commonwealth attorneys to conceal carry and drink...

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    Quote Originally Posted by monkeystomach View Post
    You guys are forgetting to add that Kaine passed a bill that allows non permit holding Commonwealth attorneys to conceal carry and drink...
    No, I'm not forgetting he passed that, after vetoing the restaurant ban last year. I just hope he doesn't remember me calling him a hypocrite in the e-mail I sent him about that!

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    I was saying that I think it needs to be in the e-mails... maybe it will give him a red face... or piss him off and make him veto it

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    The good thing is that it keeps getting out of the Legislature. If we can get McDonnell in the Gov's mansion we can get this thing signed someday.

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    He will veto bill. Do not doubt that. We need to get a governor who will put personal feelings aside and do what the constituents want.
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    True, but I really don't want to wait another year... VCDL has been doing really great things and I am going to be crushed if it gets vetoed. Yea, McDonnell would make a great governor and I think Cuccinelli would make a great attorney general too

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    I do not want to wait either. I have been regularly emailing his office, and having family members do this also. I will not give up the fight till the very end.
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    Governor? Governor??

    Oh! You mean the full time DNC Chairman (hand picked by Obama) / part time Governor of Virginia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jowgafist View Post

    RICHMOND (AP) -- A bill to allow those with concealed-carry permits to take hidden guns into restaurants as long as they don't drink is on its way to the governor, who has rejected it before.

    So if the bill passes, can I still open carry and drink?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nkanofolives View Post
    So if the bill passes, can I still open carry and drink?
    That's my take.

    There is no general law on guns in an ABC licensed establishment.

    The only restriction is on CC -- which this bill (assuming DNC Chairman's veto can be overridden this time) the will relax somewhat.
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