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    Exclamation URGENT: Virginia Bill

    The Senate just passed a bill that would allow concealed carry in restaurants that serve alcohol as long as you're not consuming. We NEED to get in contact with the governor as he says he'll veto the bill. Maybe, just MAYBE we can show him how many of us are out there.

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    Contacted the DNC Chairman.

    Also contacted this guy: Terry McAuliffe: Welcome

    I let him know he'd bear the brunt of Kaine's veto. Urged him to counsel the sitting Chairman on the bill.

    Aside: Two college kids came to my door three weeks ago asking me to sign a petition to get McAuliffe on the ballot. I asked them a few questions about Terry:

    1. What's his current job? Answer: Silence
    2. Where does he currently live? Answer: Silence
    3. What elected office has he held? Answer: Silence
    4. What qualifies him to be Governor: Answer: He supports Obama and "will lead Virginia into the future."

    Noted. Move along, kids. Genghis Khan could run for Governor as a Democrat and these idiots would canvass for him.

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    bump for Sunday peoples. :)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red82 View Post
    The Senate just passed a bill that would allow concealed carry in restaurants that serve alcohol as long as you're not consuming. We NEED to get in contact with the governor as he says he'll veto the bill. Maybe, just MAYBE we can show him how many of us are out there.

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    He doesn't give a rat's --- how many of us there are. He's anti gun and since he doesn't have to worry about being re elected doesn't care.
    That being said I did waste my time to e-mail him.

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    VCDL Alert regarding this....Contact the Governor, Virginians.

    Governor Kaine is in a very interesting position on the restaurant ban
    repeal this year.

    Last year he vetoed a restaurant ban repeal that would have allowed
    CHP holders to carry concealed as long as they didn't drink. However,
    the Governor then turned around and signed another bill into law that
    allowed off-duty, untrained, Commonwealth Attorneys to carry concealed
    in restaurants that serve alcoholic beverages and even drink!

    While the Governor denied that Commonwealth Attorneys would be able to
    carry concealed in restaurants, the law was clear - they could. The
    Attorney General agreed with VCDL and so did all the other attorneys
    I consulted with.

    This year the Governor has TWO restaurant ban repeal bills on his desk:

    * The first, SB 877 (Martin), allows retired police officers from ANY
    jurisdiction to carry concealed in restaurants that serve alcohol and
    even drink while doing so

    * The second, SB 1035 (Hanger), allows CHP holders to carry concealed
    in restaurants as long as they don't drink

    There is no way the Governor could miss the implications of the first
    bill, as the only part of the code that it modifies is the part
    dealing with concealed carry in restaurants that serve alcoholic
    beverages. The change is direct and clear.

    So the Governor has four choices as to what to do:

    * Sign both bills and let ALL those who can legally carry concealed in
    Virginia, carry concealed in restaurants. This would be consistent
    with signing the Commonwealth Attorney bill last year and the fair
    thing to do.

    * Sign the retired police bill, but veto the CHP holder bill. This
    would be the height of hypocrisy. By signing the bill last year
    allowing off-duty Commonwealth Attorneys, untrained with firearms, to
    carry concealed in all Virginia restaurants and drink, followed by
    signing a bill this year to make it clear that vacationing, retired
    game wardens from Hawaii can carry concealed in all Virginia
    restaurants and drink, while denying a Virginia CHP holder concealed
    carry in the same restaurants, even if the CHP holder doesn't drink,
    would be indefensible.

    * Sign the CHP holder bill, but veto the retired police bill. That
    combination would never happen. But even so, a retired police officer
    could simply get a CHP and he could then carry concealed in
    restaurants, but would lose the ability to drink while doing so.

    * Veto both bills.

    Finally, the Governor has one other tool he can use - he can NOT sign
    one or both bills, in which case they become law without his
    blessing. That allows the will of the People to be addressed, while
    allowing a governor to distance himself from the bill.

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    ACTION ITEM:

    Let's flood the Governor's office with phone calls and emails. We
    have a good bill that we can stand behind, so we need our voices to
    ring out loud and clear.

    The Governor's phone number: (804) 786-2211
    The Governor's fax number: (804) 371-6351

    The Governor's webmail address (double-click or copy/paste into your
    browser):

    Official Site of the Governor of Virginia

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    Support BOTH SB 1035 and SB 877!

    Suggested webmail (copy and paste into the webmail form):

    Please sign SB 1035, which allows Virginia's most law-abiding
    citizens, concealed handgun permit holders, to carry concealed in
    restaurants that serve alcoholic beverages as long as they don't
    consume alcoholic beverages. The bill passed both Houses with strong,
    bipartisan support.

    I encourage you to also sign SB 877, which allows retired law
    enforcement officers, who are also law-abiding citizens, to carry
    concealed in restaurants that serve alcoholic beverages.

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    Done! Also pointed out how his veto would fly in the face of the Virginia democrats that followed logic and reason in supporting this bill and would reflect poorly on the democratic party as a whole, given his new position.
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    Done.

    Please sign SB 1035, which allows Virginia's most law-abiding citizens, concealed handgun permit holders, to carry concealed in restaurants that serve alcoholic beverages as long as they donít consume alcoholic beverages. The bill passed both Houses with strong, bipartisan support.

    I encourage you to also sign SB 877, which allows retired law enforcement officers, who are also law-abiding citizens, to carry concealed in restaurants that serve alcoholic beverages.

    Last year you vetoed a restaurant ban repeal that would have allowed CHP holders to carry concealed as long as they didn't drink. However, you then turned around and signed another bill into law that allowed off-duty, untrained, Commonwealth Attorneys to carry concealed in restaurants that serve alcoholic beverages and even drink!

    While you denied that Commonwealth Attorneys would be able to carry concealed in restaurants, the law was clear - they could.

    Please, do the right thing and correct the inconsistency between how you treat trained LEO and CHP holders and the untrained Commonwealth Attorney. It's the fair and right thing to do.
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    Sent as a Visitor to VA. I travel there with work at times. Good Luck.

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    I'm not a Va. resident yet but I do own land there. How did you wind up with a gun unfriendly Gov? Should I stay in Ga?

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    Quote Originally Posted by harry1940 View Post
    I'm not a Va. resident yet but I do own land there. How did you wind up with a gun unfriendly Gov? Should I stay in Ga?
    Two words...
    1. Fairfax
    2. Richmond

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    When are these Bills going before Gov Kaine ?.

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