Are we really that bored?

Are we really that bored?

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    Are we really that bored?

    I hate to ask this but, is the gun community really that bored after this past election cycle?

    The reason I am asking, is that on this forum and others similar to it there have been numerous posts and threads about:

    List of assault weapons up for ban.

    Changing demil codes on spent brass.

    Airline pilots not being able to stay armed.

    The end of the USA as we know it is at hand.

    I am sure I am leaving something out, but after the initial outrage from the start of the post or new articles that shows up, when everything is hashed through, what are we finding? Basically it is a bunch of crap that doesn't have any documented material to go along with it, and folks have argued pages of posts about whether the sky is falling or not.

    So, really are we that bored, since after the election many thought that there would be a full forced assault on the RKBA, and so far nothing has happened? Are we so disappointed in not getting to fight right off the bat, that we are making up stuff just so we can get out pent up anger on someone even though they have done nothing?

    Edited:Clarification: I am amazed how gullible some folks are, is referring to how easily folks believe any and all unfounded articles or posts claiming attacks on the 2A
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    I'm not bored. As a matter of fact I am learning alot every day I come here and read.

    Thanks for all the good info DC Folks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by farronwolf View Post

    ...The end of the USA as we know it is at hand.
    This is the only mission Obama is interested in, the stimulus package passed was for one thing; grow federal government control over everything. "Can't let a good crisis go to waste". My 72 hour emergency kit is currently being upgraded to a 6 month kit.
    I'm not bored...
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    Here's my take:

    With Obama as president gun owners are very scared and are willing more now than ever to keep their rights. With the fallout that Zumbo had a while back, we now know the power of the internet and use that to our advantage. I've noticed many new gun owners and many new members on all the forums I frequent.

    I see it as people alerting others to take action on something to keep our government in check.

    The message is clear: Here's what they are trying to do, inform yourselves, let's take action.
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    I am out of work and bored but the fight will come. It is a matter of timing. Right now would be better for Us. Obama will wait for the right time for him. Holder has slipped up already.

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    It is because gun owners nowadays are informed and motivated that these attacks get forstalled. Let gun owners get bored and apathetic and you will only hear about federal gun legislation after it has already passed.

    The 65 (d) congress critters who wrote the letter stating they will opose a new AWB only did so because they savy that is what will get them re-elected. If passing the 1994 AWB would have won the dems more seats insted of getting most of them ousted we would see these 64 seeking an new AWB.

    The DoD policy of shredding brass actualy was implimented, for a couple of days. Long enough for gun owners to start calling capital hill. It was by no streach of the imagination just a wild rummor.-Jay
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason Rogers View Post
    The DoD policy of shredding brass actualy was implimented, for a couple of days. Long enough for gun owners to start calling capital hill. It was by no streach of the imagination just a wild rummor.-Jay

    Really? Where is this information, or written DOD policy found. I have seen nothing but what some have posted as emails from Georgia Arms.
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    Farronwolf, you asked the wrong question. Bored? Heck, I'm retired and being here is entertainment. Ever have the misfortune to watch daytime tv; or non-stop talking heads? This is an escape from the honey-dos. Thank goodness for DC.

    The right question is not are we bored, rather it is why are so many both gullible and paranoid, not just about 2A but all manner of public policy matters? And it cuts across both sides in the political spectrum. There are as many paranoid and out of the real world on one side as on the other. Sometimes it seems like thoughtfulness and reasonableness, moderation and reflection, aren't valued attributes. And amazingly, intelligence nor education by themselves don't have much effect on these traits.

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    I’m busier than ever writing my Senator and Congressmen, letting them know my opinion on current issues. I write pro 2 A columns for both web and print publications, and in my spare time, I check out this website, to see if you all have heard of any legislation, that is against 2A.

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    Paranoia by most.
    Apathy by some.
    Agitators by few.

    We just need to remember to keep our heads about this. There are some who are seeing the opportunity to try and work up the majority into a premature frenzy and do something stupid. So far everyone is keeping their head and we are going through the proper channels and we are presenting a united and moral front.

    While I can see we are just baby steps away from having to utilize our last options, by no means are we there yet. When we are finally faced with that decision, we must ask ourselves if what we may undertake is moral, just, righteous, and fits within our Constitution? Is what we may be fighting against immoral, unjust, unrightoues, and disregards our Constitution? Is their another option? Is the cost of fighting less than any other option including not fighting?

    When you can answer those questions in an honest way, then we will know what we must do.
    I will support gun control when you can guarantee all guns are removed from this planet. That includes military and law enforcement. When you can accomplish that, then I will be the last person to lay down my gun. Then I will carry the weapon that replaces the gun.

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    "When you can answer those questions in an honest way, then we will know what we must do."


    RISE UP AND KILL????

    No wait.... That's not what you meant was it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenHorn View Post
    "When you can answer those questions in an honest way, then we will know what we must do."


    RISE UP AND KILL????

    No wait.... That's not what you meant was it?
    Maybe, but I pray everyday that that day will never come. Ever.


    Unfortunately, some people seem to live for that day, for the wrong reasons, and right now they see an opertunity to try and stir us up.
    I will support gun control when you can guarantee all guns are removed from this planet. That includes military and law enforcement. When you can accomplish that, then I will be the last person to lay down my gun. Then I will carry the weapon that replaces the gun.

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    It's not boredom.

    It's that this administration is the worst this nation has ever seen if you love the Constitution.

    Now you may be an Obamessiah apologetic, but I most certainly am not. They will continue to chip away at our armor until they find a weak spot. We, gun owners, conservative, and moral people are using the internet and grassroots approach that worked so well for our current president, to do what he did. We are changing things, or to put it another way, not letting him and his cohorts change things for the worse.

    If the Obamessiah wants to live in a socialist country, fine. MOVE THERE! Do not change my country.

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    BikerRN,

    I guess your able to give us some links to what the current administration has done in the way of erroding our 2A rights. Surely there is some Executive Order, or some law that has been signed some place or something that shows of this assault. It should be easy to post a link to a governement policy change or something factual.

    I am not defending the current administration for any actions they have taken. But do date, I see no evidence of any assault on the RKBA.

    I can dislike what I see in Washington, all branches of government, without standing on the street corner and crying that the sky is falling. Eventually, standing there crying about something that isn't happening will just simply get you ignored.

    When there is something to cry about, most likely you will end up being ignored until it is too late. What have you accomplished then? This is what should be avoided.
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    Precisely what others would say too

    Quote Originally Posted by BikerRN View Post
    It's not boredom.

    It's that this administration is the worst this nation has ever seen if you love the Constitution.
    This type of over the top rhetoric is precisely what was often said about the previous occupant of the White House.

    Guess what, the earlier occupants tried their best to do their best and the present one tries his best to do his best.

    None of us could do better. Which is why we don't run for office.
    Our flaws would be quickly detected by everyone else and we would be unsuccessful.

    We have to start with a premise that our elected officials intend to uphold the constitution, per their oath. From that point on, we might want to discuss and debate whether or not they actually do so, but let's at least give the benefit of the doubt for good intentions.

    I couldn't stand the former president, but I don't think he was evil. And our present president is not evil either.

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