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    All private guns will be confiscated by september 2009, us tells russia

    ALL PRIVATE GUNS WILL BE CONFISCATED BY SEPTEMBER 2009, US TELLS RUSSIA

    Kremlin reports on the extraordinary meeting held today between President Medvedev and former United States Secretaries of State Henry Kissinger (under Nixon), James Baker (under Bush Sr.), Charles Shultz (under Regan), former United States Defense Secretary William Perry (under Clinton), and former US Senator and top defense expert Sam Nunn, are stating that the Americans are acknowledging for the first time their acceptance of a New Global Order in which they seek to partner with natural resource rich Russia and the oil rich Nations of the Middle East in order to ensure their survival into the 21st Century.

    Leading the United States to the shocking conclusion that their very survival is at risk has been the evaporation of 45 percent of the World’s wealth which has caused a rapid plunge in Global manufacturing leading to a 49 percent collapse in US trade exports which the International Monetary Fund is reported has caused the World’s economy to shrink for the first time in 60 years and has lead Canada’s Central Bank chief David Dodge to state the World is “facing a long and deep recession that will fundamentally alter the nature of capitalism”.

    Though Prime Minister Putin has warned that “resorting to a printing press would be unwise and extremely dangerous”, the already bankrupt United States, whose staggering debt is four times higher than their entire National income, has allowed its Federal Reserve Bank Chairman Ben “Throw Money Out of Helicopters” Bernanke to ‘create out of thin air’ a further $1.2 Trillion to stabilize the American economy, but which in turn has led to the collapse of the US Dollar leading the United Nations to recommend next week that the World “ditch the dollar as its reserve currency in favor of a shared basket of currencies”.

    Russian economists further state in these reports that the United States has been left with ‘no other option’ than to force the massive devaluation of the US Dollar in order to ‘shake lose’ from banks and private investors the hundreds of billions they are currently hoarding and is being blamed for collapsing a United States where consumer spending accounts for two-thirds of its economy and which without money to borrow, or borrowers to loan to, is fast approaching the abyss.

    With the devaluation of the US dollar, however, massive inflation will ensue causing the value of these currently hoarded hundreds of billions of US Dollars to plummet and forcing them to be spent before they become totally worthless, a policy which China, the largest Global holder of US debt, has voiced increasing concerns about and have cut back on their purchases of American debt even as desperation hits their own factories as orders plunge.

    These top American Officials have also assured President Medvedev that new laws being written by the Obama administration will ‘completely’ reform the American financial system by fully integrating it into a single Global Economy due to be enacted during the coming G-20 summit in London.

    When President Medvedev voiced his concerns to the Americans over his belief that the US Congress would not allow such a radical new set of laws to pass, these reports continue, Kissinger stated that the American people were being ‘primed’ to overwhelm their lawmakers into swiftly enacting ‘in its entirety’ the Obama administrations new banking and financial laws by the outrageous behavior of those collapsed financial giants that includes: 1.) The insurance giant AIG which after receiving over $300 billion in US taxpayer money paid out nearly $200 million in bonuses; 2.) The collapsed stock selling giant Merrill Lynch which after receiving $20 billion in US taxpayer money paid out $3.6 billion in bonuses; and 3.) The collapsed US banking giant Citigroup who after receiving $45 billion in US taxpayer money announced a $10 million redecoration of their executive office suites.

    News from the United States today further confirm Kissinger’s assertions to President Medvedev as US Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner has now admitted that he had ordered US Senator Christopher Dodd to include the executive pay provision into the stimulus bill which was, in fact, a loophole allowing these controversial bonuses to be paid out.

    To such machinations being utilized by their supposed ‘leaders’ against them in order to pave the road from a once sovereign United States to this New World Order these Americans remain nearly clueless, but when pressed by President Medvedev on the plans to ensure that civil society on the North American continent doesn’t break down Kissinger reportedly replied, “By September we’ll have confiscated all privately owned guns so it really doesn’t matter what we do, we’ll still be in charge”.

    Russian Intelligence reports state that gun ownership statistics in the United States vary widely, but is estimated to be that nearly 50 percent of US households have nearly 270 million guns, none of which these Americans seem now ready to part with without a fight.

    But, new reports coming from the United States show that they are fast adopting the tactics used by the German Nazis to disarm their society prior to the installation of fascist rule and martial law by first rendering all private guns useless by eliminating and restricting the ammunition they use. And from new reports coming from the United States we can see that this ‘plan’ is already being instituted with ammunition shortages being reported in Idaho, Georgia, and Louisiana, and a new law just introduced in California which would:

    1. Stop the private transfer between individuals of more than 50 rounds of ammunition.

    2. License and tax anyone selling handgun ammunition commercially and force these stores to get background checks on anyone selling ammunition.

    3. Get a thumbprint from anyone buying handgun ammunition.

    4. Ban all ammunition sales that don't take place face-to- face, in other words, ban mail-order sales.

    Even more chilling for American gun owners was the Obama administrations order to the US Military on March 12 which stated: “Effective immediately DOD Surplus, LLC, will be implementing new requirements for mutilation of fired shell casings. The new DRMS requirement calls for DOD Surplus personnel to witness the mutilation of the property and sign the Certificate of Destruction.” which would have crippled the US ammunition industry, who are the largest purchasers of used military ammunition brass, but after found out about by US Senators was quickly withdrawn.

    To the reasons feared by the leadership class in the United States of their citizens retaining the right to firearms we can read:

    “As the growing world-wide economic crisis deepens, military forces from Canada, the United States, and the United Kingdom are preparing to meet angry citizens on the street. The economic crisis - and the public outrage it is causing - is at the forefront of intelligence agencies and military forces in the western world.

    Prominent trends forecaster Gerald Celente has been sounding the alarm for years, warning that riots and tax revolts are coming to America. The Pentagon, U. K. Ministry of Defense, and Canadian military apparently agree. In November of 2008 the United States Army War College released the report Known Unknowns: Unconventional "Strategic Shocks" in Defense Strategy Development. The report identifies economic collapse as a reason for the defense establishment to conduct domestic operations. The report states,

    "Widespread civil violence inside the United States would force the defense establishment to reorient priorities in extremis to defend basic domestic order and human security. Deliberate employment of weapons of mass destruction or other catastrophic capabilities, unforeseen economic collapse, loss of functioning political and legal order, purposeful domestic resistance or insurgency..."

    The CIA and MI5 are both watching the economic situation for signs of unrest and political instability. As the Washington Post reports, the CIA has added an economic situation report to its threat assessment for the White House. A further sign that the United States government is anticipating widespread unrest comes with the domestic stationing of the 1st Brigade Combat Team of the 3rd Infantry Division. The Army Times reports,

    "They may be called upon to help with civil unrest and crowd control or to deal with potentially horrific scenarios such as massive poisoning and chaos in response to a chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear or high-yield explosive, or CBRNE, attack."

    Canadian military forces have been given a nearly identical domestic mission in a synchronized move with the United States. Canada's National Post reports that,

    "The Canadian military has embarked on a wide-ranging plan to turn its reserve soldiers into focused units trained and equipped to respond to a nightmarish array of domestic threats, including terrorist "dirty bomb" attacks, biological agent containment, Arctic catastrophes and natural disasters.”

    Reports from the United States are also revealing that for the first time since their Civil War, active duty US Army Troops were put into the streets of Alabama after the killing spree of a crazed gunman, but which the US Army is now reporting it is ‘investigating’ because it doesn’t know who deployed them.

    To whom the leadership elite in America are actually planning on protecting themselves from we can further read: “A new document meant to help Missouri law enforcement agencies identify militia members or domestic terrorists has drawn criticism for some of the warning signs mentioned.

    The Feb. 20 report called "The Modern Militia Movement" mentions such red flags as political bumper stickers for third-party candidates, such as U.S. Rep. Ron Paul, who ran for president last year; talk of conspiracy theories, such as the plan for a superhighway linking Canada to Mexico; and possession of subversive literature.”

    As to what these dangerous American terrorists can expect once they are in the custody of their US intelligence services?

    “The International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) concluded in 2007 that US methods to extract information from prisoners at secret CIA jails as part of the "war on terror" amounted to torture.”

    Even worse for these dissident Americans are the chilling revelations from top investigative news journalist Seymour Hersh: “After 9/11, I haven’t written about this yet, but the Central Intelligence Agency was very deeply involved in domestic activities against people they thought to be enemies of the state. Without any legal authority for it. They haven’t been called on it yet. That does happen.”

    So today, as the United States ‘watch list’ for domestic and International terrorists has hit 1 million names, in a country that already has more prisoners than any other Nation in the World, or our entire Earths’ history for that matter, and as sales of weapons and ammunition are still hitting record highs in America since President Obama’s election, it would appear more than likely that the assertions of US officials to Russia that they remain in control of their country is highly doubtful…and needing just one single ‘spark’ to plunge it into full scale civil war.

    And whose to say that hasn’t been their ‘plan’ all along?

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    I have a hard time believing some of this, but I wouldn't put it past them. Looks like they're trying to force us into militias. Based on their definitions(I've read the pamphlet) I'm a part of this movement. If they want to take us by force, I'm more than willing to offer opposition.

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    I'd have a hard time believing this unless they want to see the second American Revolution!
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    Initial reaction is that this is b.s.:

    "To such machinations being utilized by their supposed ‘leaders’ against them in order to pave the road from a once sovereign United States to this New World Order these Americans remain nearly clueless, but when pressed by President Medvedev on the plans to ensure that civil society on the North American continent doesn’t break down Kissinger reportedly replied, “By September we’ll have confiscated all privately owned guns so it really doesn’t matter what we do, we’ll still be in charge”.

    Where did you get this? Chain mail? Of course, the source can't be quoted, because their safety would be at stake.

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    But of course they have to protect sources. If they didn't someone could fact check their story and then where would they be?
    Reality check time folks. These former government officials ( I wont bother running through the whole list) are just that. FORMER government officials. They have as much authority to make promises and negotiate treaties as you and I do. Why are they refered to in this article as "Top government officials"? What are their current positions in the government?

    Lets move on to the Obama administrations order of March 12 to mutilate the brass. Haven't we already covered that on this forum?
    Oh yeah. Lets say hypothetically the Obaminator did personally write that order on March 12 and personally faxed it to everyone that it needed to go to. How does that explain the ammo shortages that started six months ago? Oh yeah, it doesn't.

    Get a grip people.
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    Take away the shotguns, deer rifles, pistols, and BB guns from every mildly pist-off gitterdun in America that just watched their retirement savings disappear or their kids' college funds evaporate over the last month or two...? All 200-plus million of us...?

    That might be EXACTLY what this country needs...




    Game on... Jefferson would LOVE to be here for this...
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    romak3 , what you posted is nothing more than alarmist conjecture ( B S ) did you bother to verify this in any way? I bet you didn't, now I'm not naive, I now our current administration is no fan of the 2 amendment , it;s still our right as long as we fight for them and voice our concern to our congressmen.
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    Hmmmmmm thinking about his more.......
    US population about three hundred and six million people
    Number of LEO's in the U.S. about 675,000
    Active and reserve military almost three million.
    And who believes every person to wear our country's uniform would follow orders to search our homes?
    About three hundred and fifty million guns in the U.S.
    And with all of those wonderful states like Texas allowing private transfers, how long do we think it would take to find all the guns?
    And lets say we just decide to say no. Where exactly are they going to put say, eighty million of us? How are they going to feed us? Who is going to do our jobs while we are incarcerated? What will that do to the economy?
    Who would be stupid enough to even try it?
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    Some people think out of the box, but these assumptions are not even in the building, or on the planet...there would be a revolt.

    Maybe we'll have to 'go to the mattresses', you know, to kind of thin out the herd and make more of a level playing field between a people and their government.
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    OK, for this one I am putting on the tin hat.
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    Romak, get the tinfoil hat off, buddy. It's too tight, and squeezing your brain. Just to get you on another topic, did you know that there is definitive evidence, and secret repressed testimony, that the Pentagon was responsible for 9/11?

    Oh, and the Bush administration caused the tsunami, too. And that pothole on your street.

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    Russian Intelligence reports state that gun ownership statistics in the United States vary widely, but is estimated to be that nearly 50 percent of US households have nearly 270 million guns, none of which these Americans seem now ready to part with without a fight.
    For argument's sake let's say only 10% of this number is willing to go to the mat ans shoot anybody who comes for their guns. That's 27 million shooters in a defensive position.
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