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    Another gun show loophole !!! (Merged)

    Do you guys could help me locate gun shows where I could find this kind of weapon; would look dandy on my front porch.

    (It is not humor, it is sarcasm on the topic of the media and the Gvnmt saying that the Mexican drug lords arsenal come from US gun shows.)

    Link to the full article:FOXNews.com - Mexican detained with anti-aircraft machine gun s


    Mexican detained with anti-aircraft machine gun

    Tuesday, April 14, 2009
    By E. EDUARDO CASTILLO, Associated Press Writer

    MEXICO CITY — A woman was arrested guarding an arsenal that included an anti-aircraft machine gun _ the first weapon of its kind seized in Mexico, police said Tuesday.

    The arsenal belonged to a group linked to the powerful Beltran Leyva drug cartel, federal police coordinator Gen. Rodolfo Cruz said. It also included ammunition, five rifles, a grenade and part of a grenade launcher.

    Mexican drug cartels, battling a fierce crackdown by soldiers and federal police, have increasingly gotten hold of higher-powered weapons, even military-grade arms such as grenades and machine guns. That has left police _ particularly state and municipal forces _ grossly outgunned, and many officers have quit following attacks.

    Cruz said the confiscated .50-caliber, anti-aircraft machine gun can fire 800 rounds per minute and is capable of penetrating armor from more than 5,000 feet (1,500 meters). Police on a routine patrol Monday found the gun fitted atop an SUV at a house in northern Sonora state.

    Authorities did not release any other details about the gun, including its make, where it was manufactured, or where it was sold.
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    If I really needed a .50 machine gun, I would first try to buy one in Mexico, and if I didn't find one at a reasonable price there, I would keep heading south until I found what I wanted. The last place I would try is the US. What few there are are far too expensive even for the drug lords of Mexico.
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    I want one to!!! Crap michigan laws suck
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    Is it me or that is a 30 cal air cooled browning?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miggy View Post
    Is it me or that is a 30 cal air cooled browning?
    I was posting this on another thread about this that was getting merged or closed as I was typing to reply:
    Looking at the pictures, isn't that a Browning .30-cal.? I thought the M2 always had "spade" handles and a "butterfly" trigger.
    Sure looks like a .30-cal to me. It is also too small to be an M2 .50-cal., unless the young lady in the pictures is nine feet tall.

    BTW, if this is one of the 90% of firearms being bought from FFL dealers and smuggled into Mexico, where can I buy one?
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    Mexico nabs 50 cal. mounted on SUV / more on grenades

    A little truth about grenades sneaks out, from the ATF!

    Mexican detained with anti-aircraft machine gun- MyMotherLode.com



    A woman was arrested guarding an arsenal that included an anti-aircraft machine gun _ the first weapon of its kind seized in Mexico, police said Tuesday.

    The arsenal belonged to a group linked to the powerful Beltran Leyva drug cartel, federal police coordinator Gen. Rodolfo Cruz said. It also included ammunition, five rifles, a grenade and part of a grenade launcher.

    Mexican drug cartels, battling a fierce crackdown by soldiers and federal police, have increasingly gotten hold of higher-powered weapons, even military-grade arms such as grenades and machine guns. That has left police _ particularly state and municipal forces _ grossly outgunned, and many officers have quit following attacks.

    Cruz said the confiscated .50-caliber, anti-aircraft machine gun can fire 800 rounds per minute and is capable of penetrating armor from more than 5,000 feet (1,500 meters). Police on a routine patrol Monday found the gun fitted atop an SUV at a house in northern Sonora state.

    Authorities did not release any other details about the gun, including its make, where it was manufactured, or where it was sold.

    The arrested suspect, Anahi Beltran Cabrera, apparently is not related to the Beltran Leyva clan, Cruz said.

    The U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives has traced many guns seized at scenes of drug violence in Mexico to U.S. commercial sources. But determining the source of military-grade weapons such as grenades and fully automatic machine guns is more complicated.

    The ATF says the grenades are mostly smuggled in through Central America, and have been traced back to the militaries of many countries, from South Korea to Spain and Israel. Some may be leftovers from the Central American civil wars.

    Assailants have fired on government aircraft performing anti-drug missions in Mexico in the past, but apparently never with the caliber of weapon found Monday.

    In 2006, a helicopter on a federal drug-eradication mission crashed while trying to escape ground fire, and a second helicopter was damaged by gunfire in the Pacific coast state of Guerrero.

    Mexico is upgrading its northern and southern border checkpoints in an effort to detect and seize more guns and other contraband, installing equipment that will weigh and photograph each car and truck coming into the country.

    President Barack Obama has promised to do more to stop gun trafficking from the United States to Mexico. He has pledged to dispatch nearly 500 more federal agents to the border, along with X-ray machines and drug-sniffing dogs.

    Mexico's drug violence has claimed more than 10,650 lives since President Felipe Calderon launched a military-led offensive against trafficking cartels in December 2006.

    In March, the government sent thousands more troops to the northern border to quell escalating violence. The government announced Sunday that drug-related homicides fell 26 percent across the country in the first three months of the year, compared to the same period in 2008.
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    Any bets on that this does not make the evening news......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheldon J View Post
    Any bets on that this does not make the evening news......
    It should! They bought it at a Phoenix gun show

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    Quote Originally Posted by runamuk View Post
    It should! They bought it at a Phoenix gun show

    Muk
    Dang loopholes! These cartels are gonna ruin it for the rest of us......
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