Obama Rescinds Campaign Vow On Weapons Ban

Obama Rescinds Campaign Vow On Weapons Ban

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    Obama Rescinds Campaign Vow On Weapons Ban

    No that I believe him, but this is being reported.


    Confronting a Mexican drug war that is "sowing chaos in our communities," President Barack Obama signaled Thursday he will not seek renewal of a U.S. assault weapons ban but instead will step up enforcement of laws banning the transfer of such guns across the border.

    Obama had pledged during his campaign to seek renewal of the ban but has bowed to the reality that such a move would be unpopular in politically key U.S. states and among Republicans as well as some conservative Democrats.

    Obama met with Mexican President Felipe Calderon, who has been conducting an aggressive fight against drug cartels and had hoped to persuade Obama to push for reinstatement of the gun ban. Obama arrived here on the first stop of a trip that will take him to a weekend Summit of the Americas in Trinidad, bringing together the leaders of 34 Western Hemisphere democracies.
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    Not sure I believe it either. Time will tell.
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    So why not just control the borders like 70% of Americans want the US to do!!!!!!!!!! End of problem!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
    Government is out of control
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    He flip-flops every day.

    His voting record says it all.

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    All they are trying to do is to get us to let our guard down. They are hoping to slow the sale of guns and ammo they started.

    They want our guns. To think otherwise is naive and foolish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldogy View Post
    So why not just control the borders like 70% of Americans want the US to do!!!!!!!!!! End of problem!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
    +1 For border control
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    House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, California Democrat, announced last week that she wants to register guns. Her next move will be to try to confiscate them.

    The speaker picked a television show with a viewership of 4.6 million to float the Democrats' coming gun-control push. Questioned on ABC's "Good Morning America" about the prospect of new gun-control laws now that "it's a Democratic president, a Democratic House," she responded, "We don't want to take their guns away. We want them registered."

    Politicians and bureaucrats routinely claim that registration helps solve crimes. If a registered gun is used in a crime and left at the crime scene, registration supposedly lets the police trace the gun back to the criminal. Though this turn of events might work on fictional TV crime shows, it virtually never occurs in real life. Criminals' guns are rarely left at crime scenes. When guns are left behind, it usually is because a crook has been seriously injured or killed and the police are poised to catch him anyway.

    The few guns left at crime scenes rarely - if ever - are registered to the perpetrator. If they are registered at all, it is to someone else, whose piece was stolen. Despite what Mrs. Pelosi might think, those who use guns to commit major crimes such as robbing and killing are unlikely to respect her request to file paperwork so the government can catalog the tools of their trade.

    Numerous examples disprove gun-control propaganda. Hawaii has had licensing and registration of guns for about 50 years. After all of the administrative expenses and inconvenience imposed on gun owners, police there cannot point to a single crime that has been solved as a result of those programs. Given Hawaii's remote island geography, this should be an ideal place to keep track of guns because movement in and out of the state is limited and legal importation is controlled. If registration is going to work anywhere, it should work there. Unfortunately, criminals seem to be able to get their hands on guns virtually anyplace in the world.

    Other jurisdictions with a history of strict handgun bans, such as the District of Columbia and Chicago, have even required registration of hunting rifles and shotguns for more than 20 years. Neither the District nor Chicago can point to any crimes that have been solved using registration records.

    The same rules apply across the border. Canada, which has imposed registration of handguns since the 1930s, does not have much to show for it. In 2006, when the Liberal Party under Prime Minister Paul Martin controlled the government, it was admitted in parliamentary debate that just three crimes in 70 years had been solved as a result of registration. A couple of those cases were debatable because other independent evidence helped solve the crimes. According to the Canadian Ministry of Public Safety, just 4 percent of Canadian handgun murders in 2005 and 2006 were committed with registered handguns, and none of those were registered to the people who committed the crimes. As for long-gun registration, at least as of 2006, not a single violent crime had been solved through registration.

    Because registration doesn't help solve crime, it is important to ask why government wants to register the people's firearms. History provides the answer. In countries from Australia to England, registration has been used to create lists of guns that later were confiscated by their governments. Despite Mrs. Pelosi's assurances to the contrary, Americans' fear that registration will lead to confiscation is well-founded. Indeed, Mrs. Pelosi's own state of California already has used existing registration lists to confiscate so-called assault weapons just a half-dozen years ago.

    The speaker claims registration won't lead to gun confiscation because of the Supreme Court decision in District of Columbia v. Heller, which struck down the District's handgun ban last June. She knows full well that this judgment was based on a narrow 5-4 decision that could be reversed when President Obama gets his opportunity to appoint an additional liberal justice to the court.

    A Gallup poll released Wednesday shows that support for gun control is "at an all-time low" since the issue started being surveyed nearly 50 years ago. According to Gallup, just 29 percent favor handgun bans. Now that Democrats are in control of the legislative and executive branches of government, even the will of the people won't keep them from going after the guns of law-abiding Americans.
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    OK, let do the 'lie check'...

    Was he moving his lips? He was?

    There you have it, he WAS lying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by retsupt99 View Post
    OK, let do the 'lie check'...

    Was he moving his lips? He was?

    There you have it, he WAS lying.
    I don't even think he has to move his lips..................

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    He still spreading the 90% guns come from the U.S. that has already been proved false.

    He is not to be trusted.
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    That was a great Washington Times article. Here is the direct link to it.

    EDITORIAL: 'We want them registered' - Washington Times

    We need to spread the word about gun registration being the prelude to confiscation. The general public needs to make that connection.
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    Meh, definitely not rescinding anything as much as we'd like to see it. More like temporary freeze on going after the ban. Let the dust settle and then it will be targeted again.
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    CNN is reporting something different. It says that the prez is for renewing the ban...

    who to believe?

    Obama, Calderón: Assault-gun ban could curb border violence - CNN.com

    Reviving a ban on assault weapons and more strictly enforcing existing gun laws could help tamp down drug violence that has run rampant on the U.S.-Mexican border, President Obama said Thursday.

    "We can respect and honor the Second Amendment while dealing with assault weapons," Obama says in Mexico.

    Speaking alongside Mexican President Felipe Calderón, Obama said he has "not backed off at all" on a campaign pledge to try to restore the ban. It was instituted under President Clinton and allowed to lapse by President George W. Bush.

    "I continue to believe that we can respect and honor the Second Amendment right in our Constitution -- the rights of sportsmen and hunters and homeowners that want to keep their families safe -- to lawfully bear arms, while dealing with assault weapons that, as we know here in Mexico, are used to fuel violence," Obama said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patti View Post
    He flip-flops every day.

    His voting record says it all.

    If it crawls like a snake, looks like a snake.....it's a snake.
    +1 Ill NEVER trust him
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    Well, so far I have not believed a single noise that has emanated from his yap so I see no reason to start now. Time will tell.

    Close the borders and let Mexico handle their own problems is a good first step. But I doubt that will be anything at all similar to what happens.
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