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    Imagine this, Speaker Williams voted to keep the ridiculous limitations...

    Aye=anti-gun, Nay=pro-gun

    HB0962 by Todd - FLOOR VOTE: NONCONCUR IN SENATE AMENDMENT# 1 4/23/2009
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    Ayes.............................................. .45
    Noes.............................................. .44
    Present and not voting.......................2

    Representatives voting aye were: Armstrong, Barker, Bass, Borchert, Brooks H, Brown, Casada, Coley, Curtiss, Eldridge, Favors, Ferguson, Fincher, Ford, Fraley, Hackworth, Hardaway, Harmon, Harrison, Haynes, Litz, Lollar, Maddox, Maggart, McCord, McCormick, McDaniel, McDonald, McManus, Montgomery, Mumpower, Odom, Pitts, Pruitt, Ramsey, Sargent, Shepard, Shipley, Sontany, Tidwell, Tindell, Turner M, Watson, Yokley, Mr. Speaker Williams -- 45.

    Representatives voting no were: Bell, Bone, Brooks K, Camper, Campfield, Carr, Cobb C, Cobb T, Dean, DeBerry L, Dennis, Dunn, Evans, Faulkner, Fitzhugh, Floyd, Halford, Harwell, Hawk, Hensley, Hill, Johnson C, Johnson P, Jones S, Jones U, Kelsey, Kernell, Lundberg, Lynn, Matlock, Miller, Moore, Naifeh, Niceley, Rich, Richardson, Shaw, Stewart, Swafford, Towns, Turner L, Weaver, Windle, Winningham -- 44.

    Representatives present and not voting were: Cobb J, Coleman -- 2.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Overtaker View Post
    Imagine this, Speaker Williams voted to keep the ridiculous limitations...

    Aye=anti-gun, Nay=pro-gun

    HB0962 by Todd - FLOOR VOTE: NONCONCUR IN SENATE AMENDMENT# 1 4/23/2009
    Failed
    Ayes.............................................. .45
    Noes.............................................. .44
    Present and not voting.......................2

    Representatives voting aye were: Armstrong, Barker, Bass, Borchert, Brooks H, Brown, Casada, Coley, Curtiss, Eldridge, Favors, Ferguson, Fincher, Ford, Fraley, Hackworth, Hardaway, Harmon, Harrison, Haynes, Litz, Lollar, Maddox, Maggart, McCord, McCormick, McDaniel, McDonald, McManus, Montgomery, Mumpower, Odom, Pitts, Pruitt, Ramsey, Sargent, Shepard, Shipley, Sontany, Tidwell, Tindell, Turner M, Watson, Yokley, Mr. Speaker Williams -- 45.

    Representatives voting no were: Bell, Bone, Brooks K, Camper, Campfield, Carr, Cobb C, Cobb T, Dean, DeBerry L, Dennis, Dunn, Evans, Faulkner, Fitzhugh, Floyd, Halford, Harwell, Hawk, Hensley, Hill, Johnson C, Johnson P, Jones S, Jones U, Kelsey, Kernell, Lundberg, Lynn, Matlock, Miller, Moore, Naifeh, Niceley, Rich, Richardson, Shaw, Stewart, Swafford, Towns, Turner L, Weaver, Windle, Winningham -- 44.

    Representatives present and not voting were: Cobb J, Coleman -- 2.
    Yep, my 'guy' - McCormick voted aye; I'm sure glad to see that.

    But, we need to be contacting reps!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tangle View Post
    Yep, my 'guy' - McCormick voted aye; I'm sure glad to see that.

    But, we need to be contacting reps!
    I don't think the 'aye' vote was a good thing.
    I've been watching this as a neighbor to the south. I hope some of my TN friends can clear something up for me---1. The sponsor of the bill, Rep. Todd, is not listed in the vote of non-concurrance. 2. Jimmy Neifeh voted to concur with the Senate version--this scares me. 3. Has the Governor made any public statements about how he is leaning on this bill? Does the Speaker Emeritus know if the Senate version went to the Gov, he would veto it?

    Please let me know your thoughts

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    Quote Originally Posted by spydad View Post
    I don't think the 'aye' vote was a good thing.
    I've been watching this as a neighbor to the south. I hope some of my TN friends can clear something up for me---1. The sponsor of the bill, Rep. Todd, is not listed in the vote of non-concurrance. 2. Jimmy Neifeh voted to concur with the Senate version--this scares me. 3. Has the Governor made any public statements about how he is leaning on this bill? Does the Speaker Emeritus know if the Senate version went to the Gov, he would veto it?

    Please let me know your thoughts
    Governor Bredesen has made no comments on the gun bills one way or another. One good thing for Tennesseans in this case (and for those of other states too) is that legislative overrides of vetoes only require a simple majority in both chambers, not two-thirds. I have heard one who knows well say he suspects the conference committee will keep the age-restricted-venue provision and strip out the curfew, and that such will likely pass both chambers with veto-proof majorities.

    Mr. Naifeh is, we hope, playing out a losing hand to the bitter end in hopes that something unexpected will happen to turn the tide....
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    I read in the paper that the problem was because they couldn't agree whether to make it ok to carry in all parks or to make up to each county, and local PD, not just in parks but only in certain areas of the parks too....what a stupid thing to try to add, imagine being able to keep track of all of that,what would they do, paint lines in the grass ?

    I have to congratulate myself for writing the longest run-on sentence in history !

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    Quote Originally Posted by PNUT View Post
    ...I have to congratulate myself for writing the longest run-on sentence in history !
    As they say, "It's the thought that counts.", and you are certainly right about the confusion that would result from all the local abuse.

    But are we confusing two bills here? I don't think the restuarant bill has anything to do with the parks bill????
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    The parks bill is SB1518--back in front of Sen Judiciary Comm tomorrow afternoon.

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