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    He mentions only a few innercity gangs that have the "American he with the gun is King mentality" ask him why then knife crimes are on the rise in his country.
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    If you can eraduicate the need for a gun from their mentality them you are already one up on them. When a culture actively encourages firearm possessions it is also doing so inadvertantly on the criminal fraternity.
    Crime was present before guns...ergo, you cannot blame guns for crime.
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    I gave up arguing with anti's because you can't reason with stupid...........

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    Pure hogwash. Even the guy who wrote that nonsense can't possibly believe it. In england it seems that the criminals are always the victim.

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    If there were NO GUNS for ANYONE - The innocent would be in jeopardy from assault from the bad guys. They'd either outnumber you - use knives, clubs or other weapons. The GUN is your equalizer. Shame that they can acquire also.
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    Crime existed before black powder and the gun were invented.

    The only way to answer him is:

    "You sir, are an idot"

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    Quote Originally Posted by ErikGr7 View Post
    Why don't the Bristish society view all people with knives
    as scum?? Just as if they carried a gun??
    Ahh, but they do, but the number of violent youths (and others) carrying knives for illicit purposes has gone up dramatically, as has knife crime, despite society's "disgust" at such actions.

    To deny that knife crime there isa huge problem is to deny reality.

    Actor in Harry Potter stabbed to death defending brother
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    Published: Sunday, May 25, 2008

    LONDON - A teenage actor who appears in the next Harry Potter film was stabbed to death trying to protect his younger brother from a knife-wielding man in London early Saturday.

    Robert Knox, 18, appears alongside Daniel Radcliffe in Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince. Relatives said his role as Marcus Belby in the film, due for release in November, was set to launch his acting career.

    Knox was apparently killed while trying to save his 16-year-old brother, Jamie, from a man armed with two knives. The man began attacking drinkers outside a bar next to a railway station in Sidcup, southeast London.


    Witnesses said the attacker had earlier been thrown out by bouncers, but returned with several friends.

    Knox's distraught mother Sally rushed to the scene moments after her son's death to find the sidewalk covered in blood. A number of others were hurt, including one young man who was stabbed twice in the neck.

    Witness Russell Wood said the attacker, waving what appeared to be two kitchen knives, "stabbed people here, there and everywhere."

    A police spokesman said a 21-year-old man had been arrested "on suspicion of murder."

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    Ahhhh, it seems your British counterpart suffers from Holier-than-thou syndrome. Please feel free to steer him my way, I'll be happy to straighten him out;

    First and foremost: Tell him that this is not about guns, it is about human nature. my grandfather used to have a saying for this; he used to tell me that good and evil were polar opposites, that being evil was easy and like water it always followed the path of least resistance. That is why we have crooked rivers and crooked men...

    So the problem is not guns or the gun culture, it is a moral issue. We have raised several generations of irresponsible people with no respect for themselves and others, much less life. As has been evidenced in the United Kingdom, when they took everybody's guns away, criminals resorted to knives and other weapons. So much for utopia. Putting up crime cameras only allows police and everybody on youtube watch rapes and murders after the victims are dead and buried. Gun free zones only set up killing fields and free-fire zones for twisted murderers and psychos. You can take every conceivable weapon away from society, and these individuals will still find a way to visit violence and murder upon their fellow man.

    Here's what I suggest to the world, including Mr.Utopia:

    Want to solve the world's violence problem?

    1) Bring prayer and corporal punishment back into our schools.
    2) Start promoting moral teachings in the home.
    3) Start holding parents accountable for their kids actions, especially when the parents have some culpability (like the parents of Klebold & Harris).

    This is a moral problem we face not one of weapons....
    "Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined". - Patrick Henry

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