Sen. Graham is Sponsoring a Bill That Will Result in a National Anti-gun Database
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Sen. Graham is Sponsoring a Bill That Will Result in a National Anti-gun Database
Gun Owners of America E-Mail Alert
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Phone: 703-321-8585 / FAX: 703-321-8408
Gun Owners of America
Friday, May 15, 2009
Do you know what your supposedly "Republican" senator is doing right now? 
Well, it turns out that Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina is also leading the "hit parade" on behalf of legislation which would expand the scope of government in a way unprecedented in human history -- and which would place your most private medical data into an anti-gun database. 
Hard to believe?
But there he is: Sen. Graham is right up there with certifiable liberals like left wing Oregon Democrat Ron Wyden and left wing Michigan Democrat Debbie Stabenow. 
The bill is S. 391, and it is being pushed by some Republicans as an alternative to the Health Care Gun Ban that we've been warning you about.
S. 391 does a hodgepodge of things, but by far the most important one is to "solve" the problem of 48 million uninsured by taking away the right of Americans not to purchase government-approved insurance.
If you are uninsured, you would have to buy health insurance, whether you can afford it or not. If your employer is not unionized, he would have to retool your employer-provided health insurance policy to comply with government requirements.
If your employer cannot afford government-approved insurance with all of the politically correct bells and whistles, too bad. His only legal alternative is to fire you. 
If you cannot afford government-approved insurance, too bad. 
If you have to lose your home -- or your small business -- or your kids' college fund -- in order to pay for government-approved insurance, too bad. 
And like the Massachusetts system on which it is modeled, the federally mandated insurance would inexorably revolve around a federal database of medical information that you could not opt out of.
So, remember when your kid's pediatrician asked him about your gun collection? Or when you grandfather was diagnosed with a mental disability which could disqualify him from owning a gun?
All of that will be in the federal database, which could be searched by virtually anyone in the Department of Health and Human Services -- and by BATF, by simple request. 
And, although section 103 of S. 391 purports to allow you to keep the coverage you have, all employer-provided insurance which you wish to keep has to be rewritten to contain all the government-required mandates -- or you're not allowed to keep it. 
ACTION: Contact Senator Graham and urge him to remove his cosponsorship from S. 391. Please use his webform at .: United States Senator Lindsey Graham, South Carolina :: Contact :.
to do so (you can copy and paste the following text or type your own).
----- Pre-written letter -----
Dear Senator Graham:
In connection with S. 391 -- the Wyden-Stabenow individual insurance mandate -- apparently some people are under the delusional notion that this bill is something other than the biggest government interference in the private sector in American history.
This crazy bill would put government bureaucrats in the position of dictating the contents of virtually every insurance policy in the country -- with the sole conspicuous exception of unionized industries with collective bargaining agreements.
This bill would result in all kinds of personal information being put into a medical database. Across the nation, there have been reports that pediatricians are asking kids about their parents' gun collection. And military veterans who have been diagnosed with PTSD have already been disqualified from owning guns.
All of this information will be in the federal database, which could be searched by virtually anyone in the Department of Health and Human Services -- and by the FBI and the BATFE, by simple request.
Please do not saddle America with a massive open-ended bill like S. 391.
In short, please remove your cosponsorship from S. 391.
Sincerely,
Former Army Infantry Captain; 25 yrs as an NRA Certified Instructor; Avid practitioner of the martial art: KLIK-PAO.

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May 16th, 2009 04:39 PM
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It’s just of matter of time before they disallow anyone who has been prescribed a class II medication for pain. In my opinion, this government is determined to strip away all the rights of the American people. Vote in 2010 and get these potential communists out.
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May 16th, 2009 04:51 PM
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In the 1990s the Clinton Administration got the VA to turn over the names of 90,000 vets who'd been counseled by the Behavior Health Clinics for a whole lot of issues besides suicidal or homicidal disorders and all were dumped into the NCIC database of those forbidden to own a gun. I and other vets were assured by the VA that such a practice was specifically forbidden by legislation absent a specific court order on a case by case basis after GW was elected. Otherwise a whole lot of vets would still be in deep trouble emotionally.
Former Army Infantry Captain; 25 yrs as an NRA Certified Instructor; Avid practitioner of the martial art: KLIK-PAO.

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May 16th, 2009 05:49 PM
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Sent a letter...
"That I cannot do."
"Give this to, uh, Clemenza. I want reliable people, people who aren't going to be carried away. After all we're not murderers in spite of what this undertaker thinks."
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May 16th, 2009 07:30 PM
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Sent a letter, too.
Thanks for the link.
Sometimes on a clear day, I can see into the future with this spotting scope.
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May 17th, 2009 12:14 AM
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Letter sent. I just don't get it. How the heck so many people are so stupid. We just have idiots in Washington.
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May 17th, 2009 12:48 AM
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Real change will be for everyone to vote ALL of them out in the next election. I dont believe in career politicians. Everyone serves ONE term and then they are gone.
Thats the only way were gonna get our country back. They wont be able to vote to keep their job.
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May 17th, 2009 02:04 AM
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Term limits will never happen. The only way to get reps to stop eroding freedoms is to take the checkbook away. Set a spending limit, when it is reached, the fellow is out of government, permanently.
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May 17th, 2009 02:29 AM
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It's hard to throw stones at our elected representatives without throwing a few at the morons who continue to elect them.
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May 17th, 2009 02:43 AM
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Letter sent and notice sent that I as a constituent of his will not tolerate this behavior..
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May 17th, 2009 03:11 AM
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This is crazy. What is happening to our nation? We are becoming a police state where big brother is inch by inch drawing a web of laws around citizens that will take away everything that our founding fathers fought and died for. I saw a news story today about a new police car that has a computer system and cameras that will automatically run every license plate of every car it passes or that is in range of the cameras. Sci Fi come true. I am guilty of nothing, so would have nothing to fear from it, but that much power to scrutinize every citizen casually seems scary anyway. If the systems of camera on roadways, etc are always used to protect innocent citizens--great, but in an age of government torture without due process...
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May 17th, 2009 04:42 AM
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He's an opportunist and a weasal. Always has been and always will be.
Term limits, lobbyists out of Washington and Congress limited to their enumerated powers. That is what needs to come to pass.
Montana, Texas and a few more states are starting to stand up in an attempt to constrain congress with bills (state gun manufacture) relating to the 10th amendment and the commerce clause.
We could also express our support for a bill that has been brought forth more than once by Rep. John Shadegg (R-AZ)- the 'Enumerated Powers Act'.
When he brought it up last year he had 53 co-sponsors (10 from Texas).Here's a link to it:
H.R. 1359 [110th]: Enumerated Powers Act (GovTrack.us)
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May 17th, 2009 01:02 PM
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This will just make soldiers NOT seek help when they need it for fear they will get their guns taken away.
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May 17th, 2009 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by
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Real change will be for everyone to vote ALL of them out in the next election. I dont believe in career politicians. Everyone serves ONE term and then they are gone.
Thats the only way were gonna get our country back. They wont be able to vote to keep their job.
I agree... reduce term limits, so these bums will be more fearful of the voters.
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May 17th, 2009 04:50 PM
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We are quick to criticize the politicians, but the last time I looked, theywere still elected by the people (maybe not for long).
That's the problem; I know a middle-aged woman, single mother with 2 teen-agers and a few grown up kids.
Low-middle class, white, hard worker, extremely honest, but not the sharpest knife in the drawer. She voted for Obama in spite of what I tried to make her understand. Now she really regrets it ...
These are the people we need to work on for the next elections 2010 and 2012.
Otherwise, we might as well move to Cuba, we'll have more liberties
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