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    Writing my senator is like writing to a brick wall.


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    Quote Originally Posted by tns0038 View Post
    Now is the time to write your Senators, and tell them your opinion of such a treaty.
    exactly, we must make our voices heard so they know how we feel before its too late
    don't need to take a chance on registration not leading to confiscation, not to mention all the other anti 2A junk in this treaty (reloaders & anyone with ammo beware)
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    I didn't mean to take this thread O/T.

    My reference to "We the People" was referring to the Preamble of the Constitution.

    Sorry for any confusion...

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    Quote Originally Posted by NosaMSirhC View Post
    I didn't mean to take this thread O/T.

    My reference to "We the People" was referring to the Preamble of the Constitution.

    Sorry for any confusion...

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    I knew that, hence my reply above, no confusion on your part
    I didn't think you meant it in a selfish way the way the other poster reacted to it
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    Quote Originally Posted by 64zebra View Post
    I knew that, hence my reply above, no confusion on your part
    I didn't think you meant it in a selfish way the way the other poster reacted to it
    I wasn't attempting to toss this O/T, let's just move on.

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    Some have reference “I sold, lost, or misplaced” my pistol some place. I whole heartily agree.

    However, the problem is we all have a CCL or badge. And our Government is not stupid enough to believe we no longer have any firearms. Further are you willing to take a chance on committing a felony? I would think not. All they have to do is bring a dog to your house and it’s all over.

    Now is the time to email, call and write your Senators and express your opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tns0038 View Post
    Some have reference “I sold, lost, or misplaced” my pistol some place. I whole heartily agree.

    However, the problem is we all have a CCL or badge. And our Government is not stupid enough to believe we no longer have any firearms. Further are you willing to take a chance on committing a felony? I would think not. All they have to do is bring a dog to your house and it’s all over.

    Now is the time to email, call and write your Senators and express your opinion.
    Give me Liberty or Give me Death...... A dead man cannot be prosecuted for a felony... I think that is what Patrick Henry believed.

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    As I said months ago, nothing major, like a door to door search for firearms, will happen in the next 3.5 years. They don't have the votes. They want 2 terms. Every hypothetical (some disaster) reviewed on how the government could take advantage of the situation could just as likely increase public demand for 2A rights.

    If you tell me the AWB could return, I'll believe you. That they will take steps to increase ammo costs (taxes for example) I'll believe it. That they will take steps designed to limit 2A, I'll believe it. I don't like it, but I know it could happen.

    As of today, I have no reason to believe the powers-that-be have taken a certain step toward banning 2A.

    It is good to be watchful, but the OP alone does not cause me concern. 2A is still safe, today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thanis View Post
    As I said months ago, nothing major, like a door to door search for firearms, will happen in the next 3.5 years. They don't have the votes. They want 2 terms....
    I don't think Obama cares if he has a second term to be quite honest. He has already put his agenda into action, and IMHO that's all he cared about in the first place. He was "lucky" enough to come it office during a the beginning of a economic downturn, which he was able to use scare tactics to get anything he wanted passed. Restricting firearms is high on his list. FWIW, I felt the same as you do now. Until I went to change.gov, but his anti-gun retoric has been removed since it changed to whitehouse.gov
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob P. View Post
    Ok, I don't get why you're upset.

    Obama is calling on Congress to ratify CIFTA which is a treaty prohibiting international shipment of military arms. It has NOTHING to do with the 2a or the AWB.

    The article clearly says that Obama would like to reinstate the AWB but that he recognizes that it isn't possible at this time. Further the article is pro 2a as it clearly (and for the first time as far as I know) states that a primary reason for the 2a is so that the people have the power to abolish & replace a corrupt government whereas an unarmed people have no power to do anything.

    A ban on international shipments of arms means nothing internally here in the US. AND, if the arms going into Mexico aren't from the US then we have nothing to worry about. If they are, then those dealers are breaking the law and should be caught and punished.

    So, I do not see what the hoopla is all about. Unless it's more of the some old "the sky is falling" stuff (which is what it looks/sounds like to me from here).
    CIFTA is insidious. It would give foreign troops access to the identity of American gun owners. Please watch:

    We Are Change Colorado Springs Blog Archive International treaty gives foreign troops identity of American gun owners
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    yeah that, and ban on international arms does have an effect "internally" here in the US, it is a threat to firearms freedoms....period
    first international ban on shipments (wonder how they can affect Glock, HK, & others), then they'll say: "it was a good first step, but to truly make the world a better/safer place we need to ban xxxxxx and xxxxxxx
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