Hawaii to ban pocket knives
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Pocket Knife Ban
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The Uninvited Ombudsman notes however that:
Hawaii, the island paradise that ...
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June 12th, 2009 01:20 PM
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Hawaii to ban pocket knives
Page Nine: Pocket Knife Ban
Pocket Knife Ban
The lamestream media told you:
Nothing.
The Uninvited Ombudsman notes however that:
Hawaii, the island paradise that has long been a haven for tyrannical government denial of civil rights, with virtual bans on the Second Amendment, has introduced a bill to ban pocket knives of any type. Knives are theoretically protected under the Second Amendment, whose careful wording protects "arms" and not just firearms.
No criminal activity or intent is required. Mere possession of the private property is all that's needed, if the bill passes.
Senate Bill 126 defines a pocket knife as "a knife with a blade that folds into the handle and which is suitable for carrying in the pocket." Blade length doesn't matter. The bill then proposes that "Any person who knowingly manufactures, sells, transfers, possesses, or transports a pocket knife in the State shall be guilty of a misdemeanor."
It adds that, once enacted, "no person shall import or manufacture pocket knives into the State for the purpose of selling or distributing pocket knives." No criminal charges have been filed against the people proposing the blatantly anti-rights law, who have no legitimate delegated authority to do so.
The bill's chances of passage are unknown, but if enacted, it would take effect on January 1, 2010. U.S. Senator Charles Schumer could not be reached to see if he plans a national version of Hawaii's proposed common-sense law.
Posted by The Uninvited Ombudsman on Sunday, May 10, 2009 | Permalink
http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/sessio...lls/SB126_.PDF
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June 12th, 2009 01:43 PM
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Noli nothis permittere te terere
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June 12th, 2009 01:44 PM
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I guess I don't understand the Chuckie Schumer connection.
But, this is dissappointing. I just got back from Hawaii and my 4" pocket knife and Streamlight was all I had for defense. For the most part, I felt very safe on the islands and there was only 2-3 times while I was there that I felt very vulnerable without my Glock.
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Who is John Galt?
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June 12th, 2009 01:50 PM
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I can only assume that Hawaii's bureaucrats are moving to pocket knives because the banning of guns has had no effect. So have efforts, apparently, to run 'em out of town on a rail. (The bureaucrats, that is.)
Look closely, boys and girls, 'cause this is the path it'll lead to if we allow it.
Your best weapon is your brain. Don't leave home without it.
Thoughts: Justifiable self defense.
Explain: How does
disarming victims
reduce the number of victims?
Reason over Force: The Gun is Civilization (Marko Kloos).
NRA, GOA, OFF, ACLDN.

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June 12th, 2009 01:51 PM
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I bought one of my favorite knives when I was there this year. I usually look for one every time I go.
This goes through, I guess one less purchase while I'm there.
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June 12th, 2009 01:54 PM
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I wonder what type of 'protections' the Hawaiian legislators allow themselves to have?
I'm sure that they are immune from such nonsense!
"That I cannot do."
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June 12th, 2009 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by
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I wonder what type of 'protections' the Hawaiian legislators allow themselves to have?

I'm sure that they are immune from such nonsense!

Equal protection under the law, eh?
Your best weapon is your brain. Don't leave home without it.
Thoughts: Justifiable self defense.
Explain: How does
disarming victims
reduce the number of victims?
Reason over Force: The Gun is Civilization (Marko Kloos).
NRA, GOA, OFF, ACLDN.

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June 12th, 2009 01:56 PM
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This must be senate humor.. . I cannot believe this will pass...
"Ummmmm I got a box of food to be opened, anyone got a knife?.. Oh ya, they are illegal... "..... Hmmmmmm
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June 12th, 2009 02:25 PM
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forget defense...I carry and use a pocket knife daily. Not remotely suitable for defense, it is just a tool.
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June 12th, 2009 02:27 PM
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When we went year before last year, I carried my H&K 4-inch knife.
I was already upset over leaving my Glock at home, but I wanted to take my wife, so I went anyway. If this passes I’ll never go back… So please keep watch and let us know if this passes.
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June 12th, 2009 02:32 PM
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Heck the coral there is more dangerous than a pocket knife. You can cut the heck out of yourself on that......I think legislation is needed to make us all safer. Outlaw coral!
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June 12th, 2009 02:40 PM
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Hawaii is an island of tourism. Why don't we write the legislature there and tell them how were not coming there anymore until they stop this law and reverse there gun laws. No guns = No $$$$.
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June 12th, 2009 03:04 PM
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Ok, so does the proposed law also ban box cutters? The blade on a boxcutter "slides" into the handle. Would this be considered "folds" into the handle?
What about those folding saws for backpacking? Are they "knives" for purposes of this law? I mean, the blade does "fold into the handle" after all.
Stupid law by stupid politicians trying to stop a nonexistent problem.
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June 12th, 2009 03:24 PM
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This is what I wrote
To whom it may concern,
I am greatly concerned about the legislation proposed to ban pocket knives. This legislation should NOT pass. This legislation is a ridiculous waste of the legislators time. As any rational and informed person knows, no weapons bans of any type will keep the criminally minded person from obtaining them.
My wife has visited your islands multiple times and we were planning a trip there together. But this legislation on top of your gun bans has changed our minds. We do not feel safe traveling to a destination such as yours that does not give us the right to protect ourselves from being robbed or murdered.
I suggest that in the future if you want me or my families tourist dollars, you will defeat this bill and do everything in your power to enact legislation that will allow decent honest citizens the right to carry concealed handguns and weapons
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June 12th, 2009 03:32 PM
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