The hero of Chappaquiddick is at it again

The hero of Chappaquiddick is at it again

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    The hero of Chappaquiddick is at it again

    It has been a while since he showed his ugly head ...

    Ted Kennedy Bill Could Send Your Gun Info Into A Massive Federal
    Database
    -- And you could be forced to spend $13,000 of your own money toward
    this effort!


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    Tuesday, June 16, 2009

    At long last, Teddy Kennedy has partially revealed the health care
    system he wants to foist on the whole country -- and it isn't pretty.

    It won't be pretty for your pocket book... OR FOR YOUR GUN RIGHTS!

    But first, let us explain what TeddyCare is all about.

    At the center of the plan is what's called a "universal mandate." What
    this means is that you -- and virtually everyone in the country -- will
    have to buy as much health insurance as the government demands, and that
    insurance plan will actually have to be approved by the government.

    If you work for a small business, the business will buy the insurance on
    your behalf. But you may be saddled with an enormous part of the cost.
    And, if the employer's contribution is too large, you will be fired.

    If you fail to buy TeddyCare, as the government orders you to do, the
    IRS will fine you, garnish your wages, put a lien on your house, and,
    ultimately, put you in prison.

    How much will you have to spend on your TeddyCare insurance? Teddy's not
    saying.

    The portion of your paycheck that will have to be forked over to Teddy's
    latest social experiment will be revealed ONLY AFTER THE MASSIVE HEALTH
    CARE BILL IS SIGNED INTO LAW.

    This should set off alarm bells in your brain, because, for instance,
    the average family policy is currently $12,700. "So," proclaims Teddy,
    "everyone's going to get a subsidy to pay for this." There's going to
    be a "chicken in every pot," and no one's going to have to pay for it.

    Yeah, right. If you're a welfare mother, the government will pay for
    your TeddyCare, and it would pay for it -- the first time -- by taxing
    employer-provided health benefits of working Americans. But if you a
    "working Joe" your Kennedy-subsidy will be a microscopic fraction of the
    cost of your mandated TeddyCare insurance policy.

    Okay, all of this sounds ominous... but why is this a gun issue?

    The answer is that TeddyCare will allow radical left Health and Human
    Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius to determine all of the fine print
    in every TeddyCare policy -- which you will be required to buy under
    penalty of imprisonment.

    Currently, as a result of the stimulus bill and a whole lot of other
    factors, the government is rapidly moving in the direction of
    computerizing all of your most confidential medical records and putting
    them into a federal database.

    So remember when your son was asked by his pediatrician about your gun
    collection? That would be in the federal database.

    Or remember when your wife told her gynecologist that she had regularly
    smoked marijuana ten years ago -- thereby potentially barring both her
    and you from ever owning a gun again? That would be in the database.

    Or if a military veteran complains to his psychiatrist that he's had
    emotional stress since coming back to the States, that would be in the
    database.

    Or remember when gramps was diagnosed with Alzheimer's, thereby making
    him a "mental defective" who would have to relinquish his life-long gun
    collection? That's in there too.

    And, while we are dangerously close to allowing BATFE to troll all of
    that information, TeddyCare would allow Sebelius to put EVERYONE'S
    private data in a database with a stroke of a pen.

    When we say "everyone," we don't mean quite everyone.

    Teddy has conveniently excluded Washington bureaucrats from his
    TeddyCare mandate.

    Also, Teddy and his friends in the media don't want you to hear about
    the details until after the bill is passed. That's why they're trying to
    slam it through within the next month and a half before anyone's had a
    chance to read or debate it.

    In fact, the TeddyCare proposal is currently circulating around Capitol
    Hill without even a bill number.

    ACTION: Urge your two U.S. Senators to oppose Sen. Ted Kennedy's
    mandate that will result in the registration of all your gun
    information.

    Please forward this email to your friends and family and urge them to
    contact their Senators as well.

    You can go to the Gun Owners Legislative Action Center at
    http://www.gunowners.org/activism.htm to send your Senators the
    pre-written e-mail message below.


    ----- Pre-written letter -----

    Dear Senator:

    At long last, Teddy Kennedy has partially revealed the health care
    system he wants to foist on the whole country -- and it isn't pretty.

    At the center of the TeddyCare plan is what's called a "universal
    mandate." What this means is that I -- and virtually everyone in the
    country -- will have to buy as much health insurance as the government
    demands, and that insurance plan will actually have to be approved by
    the government.

    But this is not only an issue of individual freedom; it is a gun issue.

    This is because Teddycare will allow radical left Health and Human
    Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius to determine all of the fine print
    in every Teddycare policy -- which Americans will be required to buy
    under penalty of imprisonment.

    Currently, as a result of the stimulus bill and a whole lot of other
    factors, the government is rapidly moving in the direction of
    computerizing all of our most confidential medical records and putting
    them into a federal database.

    So if a kid is asked by his pediatrician about his dad's gun collection,
    that would be in the federal database.

    Or if a wife told her gynecologist that she had regularly smoked
    marijuana ten years ago -- thereby potentially barring both her and her
    husband from ever owning a gun again, that would be in the database.

    Or if a military veteran complains to his psychiatrist that he's had
    emotional stress since coming back from Iraq or Afghanistan, that would
    be in the database.

    Or when gramps was diagnosed with Alzheimer's, thereby making him a
    "mental defective" who would have to relinquish his life-long gun
    collection, that would be in there too.

    And, while we are dangerously close to allowing BATFE to troll all of
    that information, TeddyCare would allow Sebelius to put EVERYONE'S
    private data in a database with a stroke of a pen.

    You cannot imagine how angry I, my family, and my neighbors are about
    this most recent fraud scheme to cheat me out of perhaps over $10,000
    for TeddyCare -- and to violate my privacy in the process.

    I insist that you oppose TeddyCare -- immediately and loudly. Please do
    not try to shower me with propaganda about how a mandate on how I spend
    my own money is somehow good for me.

    Sincerely,



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    Dang, I was hoping all those cancer treatments wouldn't work.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by edr9x23super View Post
    Dang, I was hoping all those cancer treatments wouldn't work.....
    Good thing you didn't say that out loud.


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    Okay, all y'all help me out.
    I don't get this. It seems to me to be over the top.

    Let me be clear, I am not a fan of universal health care/socialized medicine. I think it has all kinds of flaws. I also think that Dear Leader will do everything in his power to pass things on his agenda without us getting all the details until after the fact.

    But, is this really accurate? Are there other, reputable sources for details like those above other than the GOA?
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    I'm not waiting, I sent Senator Alesi the pre-written letter, this CAN NOT BE ALLOWED in any way-shape or form.
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    The way I see it we have only two choices...send emails, or get ready to meet Mr. Ben Dover.
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    Quote Originally Posted by retsupt99 View Post
    The way I see it we have only two choices...send emails, or get ready to meet Mr. Ben Dover.
    Ben Dover has been around since last November, some seem to be JUST figuring out who he is.

    You are correct, e-mails and letters are in order.
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    And your email address and IP address go into your file...
    "Who is to say that I am not an instrument of karma? Indeed, who is to say that I am not the very hand of God himself, dispatched by the Almighty to smite the Philistines and hypocrites, to lay low the dishonest and corrupt, and to bust the jawbone of some jackass that so desperately deserves it?"

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    here's a thought?

    what if EVERYONE threatens to sue there Doctor/HMO if they turn over our private information to a government run national data base?

    Putting my personal information into a national data base violates the Doctor patient privilege.

    If the medical community figures out they are about to be sued by 300 million people, maybe the medical lobby can but an end to this stupidity before it gets to far
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    Quote Originally Posted by PointnClick View Post
    And your email address and IP address go into your file...
    It is already there ... probably for a long time !!!
    The first rule of a gunfight: "Don't be there !"
    The second rule: "Bring enough gun"

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    Quote Originally Posted by PointnClick View Post
    And your email address and IP address go into your file...
    I'm on so many watch lists already whats one more?
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    I have PTSD: Post Ted Stress Disorder.
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    I never even did anything but I am on the secret service watch list.
    Stupid sister had to jump at the Billy the Pres from a moving vehicle in Haiti, landing in between him and the Secret Service. Oh yeah the pictures of that are hilarious.
    This one is of Billy about to Pee himself in surprise and fear, this one is him a half second later realizing he's still alive, this one a second later is of him realizing he isn't in danger, and this one is of the nice Secret Service Agent as he reaches for my sister, and this one is of the ground where the camera dropped as my sister is frog marched away.
    I know not what this "overkill" means.

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    I used to be againse ubniversal health care. Then I realized that in 4 years I'll be retiring but my wife who is 10 years younger and has no job will be without any insurance. The older I get the farther left I'm moving it seams. Soon I'll bump into Rush who is still left of me however.
    I carry to protect myself and my loved ones from the BG's. Not to solve societies problems. That said: if more carried the deterrent would only have a positive overall effect on those problems.

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    Just remember that the government that has done a bang up job taking care of our most precious heroes, veterans, will be running the same health care to take care of you.
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