This is a discussion on 60 MINUTES - disheartening to watch such misinformation within the The Second Amendment & Gun Legislation Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; Originally Posted by Chevy-SS Huh? The "60 Minutes" piece insinuated that 2A gives American citizens a legal right to buy hand grenades and RPG's, when, ...
My question for you Thanis:
Where in the US and what manufacturing company makes a cone shaped RPG (Typically the RPG-7)?
Last I checked Colt, Kimber, SW, etc... doesnt have a made by stamp on those items.
Im wondering where in the US where these weapons could even be blamed on the US???
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To the OP...
They should rename the program to..."60 Minutes of "...now that would be truth in the media.
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Then consider U.S. companies or consider arms dealers. If they are somehow involved in not just manufacturing, but also shipping, manufacture reps, etc, that could also be considered "from the U.S."
I don't feel the need to get stuck in a statistical argument (where the definations or not established). The best reason is I don't want to get stuck on the statistics is it does not matter. 2nd, you get lost in defining what "come from" is. The question I have is how will addition legislation limiting U.S. gun owners prevent drug cartels from aquiring firearms that are already illegal in Mexico, and rare to obtain in the U.S. civilian market without extensive background checks, taxes, and paperwork.
The problem is not related to 2A or where the firearms come from. These are false arguments, because if you can somehow lable something as from the U.S., have you somehow proved additional limitations are required? It only matters if you agree it matters where the firearms come from.
I'm sure many things "come from" the U.S., like bibles, twitter comments, blue-jeans, porn, etc. I don't care because they are legal and valued freedoms in the U.S. (be it whatever amendment it is based on and / or expressed as). Just like I don't really think it is Mexico's problem that drugs are smuggled into the U.S., or for that matter how low wage illegal-immigration effects the U.S. Those are our problems. Now maybe if we get to restrictive on the boarders, and Mexico has a problem with it, then I guess Mexico's problems now include those issues. Likewise, I agree, if illegal firearms are being sold to drug cartels, and somehow U.S. citizens are involved, then the existing laws should be used to prosecute these criminals, as instability across the boarder does cause problems for the U.S.
Note: There is some smuggling that goes beyond consideration of the problems or laws of the nations involved, like WMDs, and perhaps smuggling of product that supplies criminal elements, the but that is a side issue.
The only questions that are valid is how bad is the corruption within Mexico, and / or why those involved (U.S. or Mexico) in providing those firearms to drug cartels illegaly are not being prosecuted. IMO, there is no point in arguing where the firearms come from, as you have then entered a conversation where anti-gun desides on the definations.
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