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    They have a 60 filibuster proof dem senate now. They can pass anything they want given the party sticks together.
    "I believe that the right of the citizen to keep and bear arms must not be infringed if liberty in America is to survive." - Ronald Reagan


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    Fearmongering

    Quote Originally Posted by retsupt99 View Post
    Funny thing...the 1930's German people had the same 'silly fears', I wonder how that played out?
    That is a tired worn out analogy that in any case holds no water. By 1933 the German people had no vote. No comparison to us today.

    Fearmongering is inappropriate.

    As for the comment about the Patriot Act, by a different participant here, remind me which political party rammed that one through and which one controlled the Executive branch and both houses of the legislative branch when that atrocious piece of legislation passed.

    However, that is a different debate. I'm just objecting to the fearmongering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hopyard View Post
    Take some pills and chill. "In fear of your government? "

    If that is what worries you I would think you have been leading a charmed life.

    A few months back you watched, "THE GANG." You are still here to talk about it.. No one hauled you off in the middle of the night.

    Here are reasons why you don't have to fear your government:

    1) You don't live in Honduras
    2) You don't live in Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Myanmar
    3) You don't live in Tibet China
    4) You don't live in 'beat their bottoms with a rattan cane for chewing gum in public,' Singapore
    5) Your bank deposits are insured
    6) Your brokerage accounts are insured by companies owned by the government
    7)Scalia, Thomas, Breyer, Stevens, are on the SC; Gilligan isn't.
    8) Congress is dysfunctional; they couldn't do anything bad if they wanted to
    9) FEMA is dysfunctional; it can't do anything right
    10) The FBI is tied in knots chasing "terroristic" plots hatched by low IQ fools in the basement of Miami and Chicago pizza parlors.

    If anything, the present administration is rapidly proving that "change" is pretty dang hard to achieve. Nothing to worry about dear P. Just watch that front door, you never know. It might be that crazy neighbor is out on bond. Maybe he thinks he works for the government, and you believe him......

    Take some deep breaths please!!!!

    It is July 4th weekend. How about a little patriotism instead of fearmondgering?
    Good grief, Hopyard, don't take things so seriously. I was being completely facetious.

    It was a parody of Michelle O's infamous words:

    "For the first time in my life, I am proud of my country."
    BTW, I don't live in fear.

    But I AM completely disgusted, shocked, and appalled with the direction this country is going.

    And I'm not alone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tangoseal View Post
    They have a 60 filibuster proof dem senate now. They can pass anything they want given the party sticks together.
    On firearms issues, while we cannot lay vigilance aside, I think we are a bit safer than the numbers indicate. While I don't agree with much that Harry Reid does and thinks, he has thus far been fairly good on firearms issues, IIRC; several other Democratic senators are as well. As long as we stay on top of things and keep bombarding all of our members of Congress with our communications at every attempt to abridge the Second Amendment, I have hopes that we can keep them honest on this.
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    Parody

    Quote Originally Posted by Patti View Post
    Good grief, Hopyard, don't take things so seriously. I was being completely facetious.

    It was a parody of Michelle O's infamous words:

    BTW, I don't live in fear.

    But I AM completely disgusted, shocked, and appalled with the direction this country is going.

    And I'm not alone.
    Indeed you are not alone. There are 150 million Americans who are disgusted, shocked, and appalled with the direction. Problem is, no matter what direction we take, there will still be 150 million Americans who are disgusted, shocked and appalled.

    It is July 4th weekend. Let's show a little faith in our country, and our collective selves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mi2az View Post
    Some of our rights were taken away. Patriot Act for one thing. All they have to do is accuse you. Don't need proof. Sort of the Witch Hunt in Salem. No proof, just an accusation.
    Exactly what rights do you think were taken away? How have you personally be affected?

    Can you elaborate as to what 'they' do after you are accused? Do they burn you as a witch? How many people have been accused who were not guilty? Do you have names and incidents or just unsupportabe rhetoric?

    Yes, I am in fear. I think people will throw away their rights for the illusion of safety.
    Many people fear ghosts. You do realize that the Patriot Act, without harming a single innocent person, has thwarted numerous terrorist plots. It is it not an illusion of safety, it a successful, proactive program to 'connect the dots' and stop terrorists before they kill Americans.

    Were not done with the terrorist yet, all it takes is another major attack. Doesn't even have to be as bad as 9/11
    And you advocate weakening our defenses and discarding successful tools? Interesting perspective. It aligns perfectly with many liberal minds and is another example of the truth of the similarity between liberals and libertarians.

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