July 12th, 2009 02:21 AM
Would we want National CCW?
Something to think about on National CCW. Would it just be a way to take it away from us?
Federal CCW reciprocity
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July 12th, 2009 02:35 AM
I dont know if I like the idea of that...ehhhh No...I dont like that idea... my brain hurts now
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July 12th, 2009 03:26 AM
Leave it up to the states.
If this is an actual proposal we need to get the message out pronto.
This could be another ploy to gain complete control over the states again.
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July 12th, 2009 03:41 AM
July 12th, 2009 03:58 AM
I am not in favor of it at all. In fact, I am completely against it.
Anything that the Fed Govt controls, and that includes your ability and manner to exercise your rights, the Fed Govt can and will either screw up or take away. Leave it as it is, as it should be, controlled by the states.
July 12th, 2009 05:26 AM
Very scary to think about.
We can't stop here...this is bat country.
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July 12th, 2009 06:46 AM
That would provide way too much power for the feds!
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July 12th, 2009 07:17 AM
Feds need to stay at what they do best ,screwing up and let the states work on reciprocity,I have no desire or need to spend money in states I can't carry in
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July 12th, 2009 08:33 AM
A set of agreed-upon standards, done state-to-state, without Uncle.S getting involved. Those agreeing to the same basic standards would have general reciprocity, similar to a driving license.
The last thing I'd want is the feds dipping a toe into these waters. They'll turn it into something else, if history's any teacher.
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self defense (A.O.J.).
How does disarming
the number of victims?
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July 12th, 2009 08:50 AM
At first I thought it was a grand idea but then I realized maybe not. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take it all away. I agree that it should be left up to the individual states.
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July 12th, 2009 09:11 AM
I like the idea, but I know that it would be written in a way to compromise states' rights and may make it easier to repeal later and do it in one fail swoop.
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July 12th, 2009 09:22 AM
Something like the driver's license compact would be ideal instead of needing multiple permits. The Feds (AFAIK) do not control the driving laws in each state, but could use the denial of Fed funds as a weapon against a state whose laws they don't agree with.
I'm a little torn on it myself. I travel to NJ often and it sucks because I can't have my sidearm during the whole trip. But we know the Feds find ways to screw up things all the time.
For the near future at least, incorporation of the 2A may put pressure on "may-issues" to start issuing permits to avoid lawsuits. You could see everyday Joes with 50 state carry with a wallet full of permits.
"The right of the whole people, old and young, men, women and boys, and not militia only, to keep and bear arms of every description, not such merely as are used by the militia, shall not be infringed, curtailed, or broken in upon, in the smallest degree..."
Nunn v. State GA 1848
July 12th, 2009 09:42 AM
It should be left in the hands of the States, we don't need the fed's gaining anymore power or control.
July 12th, 2009 09:58 AM
I would support it if it was for Vermont style CCW laws.
64,999,987 firearms owners killed no one yesterday.
July 12th, 2009 12:02 PM
If a law were passed that simply said, "Every state will recognize every other states concealed carry permit", that would probably work. However we all know Washington wouldn't stop there. They would set standards that would make obtaining a permit almost impossible and I'm sure the fee would be outrageous.
Morintp has a good point, if CCW didn't even require a permit, there would be no records, no fees, no requirements of anykind........gee, actual freedom.
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