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    Check out this idiot...

    I don't even know if I should give this guy the courtesy of linking to his website, but he is just... there are no words.

    Sotomayor, guns, the 2nd amendment and constitutional idiocy

    Just a couple excerpts from his article... I could spend hours de-bunking this guy.

    Of course the problem with that line of thinking is that there is no 2nd amendment right to own a gun, and that is not in dispute among anyone who knows the constitution which admittedly leaves out at least 3/4 of the members of Congress and probably half the states attorneys general in the country .
    But what the hearings may finally do is put to bed this incredible ignorance over the 2nd amendment, ignorance which quite frankly does gun owners no good at all. Except to constantly put them on the defensive because every time they try to invoke the 2nd amendment to achieve something they want, they lose. And always will. Because the 2nd amendment has absolutely nothing to do with an individual right to own a gun and never did. And so it is actually in the interest of pro-gun organizations and gun owners to drop these constant references to the 2nd amendment since it will get them nowhere and instead use other tactical means in support of their positions.
    To try to rely on a 2nd amendment right that doesn't exist only makes their position more difficult because they will lose that argument every time and continue to be on the defensive. What gun owners need to do is exercise their first amendment rights and apply whatever political pressures they choose, whether its through contributions to legislators who support their position or to finance campaigns against legislators who oppose their position, and that will get them further than this losing battle that the 2nd amendment gives them rights and that it applies to individuals.
    "the Second Amendment doesn't guarantee the right to have firearms at all. " Burger said that the purpose of the Second Amendment was "to ensure that the 'state armies'--'the militia'--would be maintained for the defense of the state. "

    This is of course obvious. Even the most tortured liberal approach to the constitution cant get around the facts relating to the 2nd amendment. The 2nd amendment isn't a smorgasbord where you get to pick and choose what words you think support your position and pretend the other words don't exist.
    Have at em' boys....

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    life is like a box of chocolates

    and so are internet bloggers
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    Unless I'm mistaken, the SCOTUS just ruled that it is an individual right last summer in the "Heller" decision. I'm not even reading it.

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    Why waste valuable life time trying to reason with a 'marooooon'......buy more guns and ammo with your time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by retsupt99 View Post
    Why waste valuable life time trying to reason with a 'marooooon'......buy more guns and ammo with your time.
    +1 right on!

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    People like that must be as baffled by us as we are of them...
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    Quote Originally Posted by shooterX View Post
    +1 right on!
    +2 Right on !!
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    I cannot put down here what I want to say,.. But that is life.. There isn't enough words, and I'm just too tired..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arko View Post
    People like that must be as baffled by us as we are of them...
    Same thing I was thinking. He admitts that 3/4 of congress and about 1/2 of the states AG's disagree with his position but he's still right in his mind.
    "Run for your life from the man who tells you that money is evil. That sentence is the leper's bell of an approaching looter. So long as men live together on earth and need means to deal with one another-their only substitute, if they abandon money, is the muzzle of a gun."

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    You gotta love the one and only comment by readers that supports his view and even then its pretty weak with a clear ignorance of the fact that the police might show up too late.

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    He's probably one of those who thinks Elvis is still alive.
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    Just sent him an email, challenged him to an open debate; I will posts any responses here for everybody.....
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    It's unfortunate that people like him can vote. Hope he sits out the next election.

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    But at least to his credit (which is very little), he does say:

    "There is not a shred of evidence anywhere to show that guns owned and registered by law abiding citizens are any threat at all to the public welfare and most statistics prove it. Drunk drivers are literally hundreds of thousands of times more dangerous and more of a threat to public safety than anyone legally owning a gun."
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    Too many DRUGs in his years , His brain is scrabeled EGGS !!
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