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    A special message from Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms:



    U.S. Attorney General To Limit Gun Sales

    Gun Hater Lautenberg Proposes "Extraordinary Powers" Be Given To the U.S. Attorney General To Limit Gun Sales.

    Obama and the White House are looking the other way as Lautenberg seeks to ban guns from 1,000,000 US citizens on a secret FBI terrorist watch list. Obama has deliberately and repeatedly lied to America's 90 million gun owners across the country when he insisted that he would not try to take away anyone's firearms. Now Obama's silence endorses Lautenberg's latest attempt at banning guns.

    Lautenberg has now introduced bill S. 1317 that would give the attorney general the discretion to block gun sales to people on terror watch lists. We must defeat this bill from giving extraordinary powers to limit gun sales to the Attorney General.

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    Lautenberg To Reveal Names on Secret List

    The names of the people on the watch list are secret, and Lautenberg said he was frustrated by the F.B.I.'s refusal to disclose to investigators details and specific cases of gun purchases beyond the aggregate data.

    Gun hater Lautenberg requested the gun grab study from the Government Accountability Office. He is using statistics, compiled in the report that is scheduled for public release next week to invade US citizen's privacy and put more restrictions on the Second Amendment.

    Lautenberg said he wanted a better understanding of who is being allowed to buy guns.

    How you ask? Trial by innuendo and misinformation that has put 1,000,000 Americans and maybe even you on a terrorist watch list without your knowledge by saying: people placed on this government's terrorist watch list can be stopped from getting on a plane or getting a visa, and will also be stopped from buying a gun.

    Lautenberg wants gun purchases stopped for just being on the list. Current law states federal officials must find some other disqualification of a would-be gun buyer, like being a felon, an illegal alien or a drug addict.

    Is your name on the list and can you get it removed?

    The government's consolidated watch list, used to identify people suspected of links to terrorists, has grown to more than one million names since the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. It also has drawn widespread criticism over the prevalence of mistaken identities and unclear links to terrorism.

    A CNN story raises questions about mistaken identities on the list - James Robinson is a retired Air National Guard brigadier general and a commercial pilot for a major airline who flies passenger planes around the country.

    James Robinson is a retired brigadier general and a commercial pilot. His name is on the terrorist "watch list."

    He has even been certified by the Transportation Security Administration to carry a weapon into the cockpit as part of the government's defense program should a terrorist try to commandeer a plane.

    But there's one problem: James Robinson, the pilot, has difficulty even getting to his plane because his name is on the government's terrorist "watch list."

    That means he can't use an airport kiosk to check in; he can't do it online; he can't do it curbside. Instead, like thousands of Americans whose names match a name or alias used by a suspected terrorist on the list, he must go to the ticket counter and have an agent verify that he is James Robinson, the pilot, and not James Robinson, the terrorist.

    "Shocking's a good word; frustrating," Robinson -- the pilot -- said. "I'm carrying a weapon, flying a multimillion-dollar jet with passengers, but I'm still screened as, you know, on the terrorist watch list."

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    History Repeating Itself?

    The 1938 German Weapons Act, the precursor of the current weapons law, superseded the 1928 law. As under the 1928 law, citizens were required to have a permit to carry a firearm and a separate permit to acquire a firearm. Furthermore, the law restricted ownership of firearms to "...persons whose trustworthiness is not in question and who can show a need for a (gun) permit."

    Lautenberg Must be Stopped

    Recently Sens. Frank R. Lautenberg (D-NJ), Jack Reed (D-RI) and Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) have joined Paul Helmke, President of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence and victims and family members of the Virginia Tech tragedy, to introduce legislation to eliminate the private transfers of firearms and close the nation's "gun show loophole."

    This Senate bill is in the Judiciary Committee, chaired by anti-gun liberal Democrat Leahy. Lautenberg's gun hate is well documented and he says you are irrational if you support private gun sales.
    "There is no rational reason to oppose closing the loophole. The reason it's still not closed is simple: the continuing power of the special interest gun lobby in Washington" Sen. Lautenberg said ignoring the Constitution.
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    Lautenberg and the Gun Grabbers in the Senate are now tying to use the GAO to justify putting Americans on a secret gun ban list.

    LAUTENBERG'S MOTIVES

    Motives for his latest gun ban to are twofold:
    First, he is taking small steps to enact gun control legislation this is just one step.
    * Second, eradicate the gun culture altogether.
    * All that seems to be on the minds of the Anti-Gun Senators and at the offices of gun control extremists is figuring out how to invade your privacy to erode and eventually destroy the right, and the means, of self-defense.

    Now the Anti-Gun Coalitions are trying to use a self supporting GAO study to destroy the right of all Americans to keep and bear arms to protect themselves under the law. They are attacking and hiding behind an Anti-Terrorist Agenda while getting political and financial support from:

    George Soros a Hungarian-born billionaire bank rolling efforts with his check book and spending more that $100 million to destroy the Constitution.

    Sen. Dianne Feinstein (CA) admitted that "guns would be banned and confiscated" if she could have her way.

    The United Nations actively pushes globalism seeking to disarm all Americans.

    We must Stop the Anti-Gun Coalition and get ready for the biggest gun control fight of the year from coast to coast. We can not do that without your support.

    Stand up against this attack! Stand up for the right to not only defend yourself, but to defend your family, your children, your friends, and your classmates!

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    Like all other threats against our freedoms, we must rise and defeat this bill from giving extraordinary powers to limit gun sales to the Attorney General.

    In order to stop Lautenberg and his fellow gun-grabbers-we need to let the Congress know with thousands of faxes telling them to leave guns alone.

    Americans like you who understand what our Founding Fathers envisioned for our nation…and who are willing to fight to defend our Constitution and for what it stands.

    So please, help the Citizens Committee and me defeat those who wish to gut and trash the United States Constitution.

    Help me flood the U.S. Senate with a sea of FAXES big enough to drown each and every Senator willing to vote away the Second Amendment.

    Please, send your Donation and FAX TODAY!

    Select Here to Reject All Gun Bans and Fax All 99 Senators

    Keep calling your Senators today, toll free numbers include 1-877-851-6437 and 1-866-220-0044, or call toll 1-202-225-3121 AND REGISTER YOU'RE OUTRAGE at ongoing efforts to take guns away!

    CALL PRESIDENT Obama, 202-456-1111 and 202-456-1414 expressing your disdain and ABSOLUTE REJECTION of all GUN BANS.

    DO NOT BE SILENCED - MAKE YOUR VOICE HEARD!

    NOTE: We need TENS OF THOUSANDS of faxes and PHONE CALLS and EMAILS delivered to ALL Senators right away!

    For our projects to be successful, we must count on the voluntary financial support from individuals like you who care.

    Your contribution of $20 or $25 is urgently needed today.

    Your donation for just $10 will help so much. If you can afford to send $50 or $100 or more it would truly be a godsend.

    Remember, protecting our freedom is not inexpensive.

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    Sincerely,

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    That's almost a million and a half contributions aimed at you - and your gun rights every year!

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnklFungus
    If it is ok to disarm legal citizens to reduce crime, then doesn't it stand to disband the military to prevent war?

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    This terrible bill is already being discussed here:

    http://www.defensivecarry.com/vbulle...arms-bill.html

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    “The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government.”

    Patrick Henry
    Quote Originally Posted by UnklFungus
    If it is ok to disarm legal citizens to reduce crime, then doesn't it stand to disband the military to prevent war?

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    Now wait just a minute, I remember Obama saying, in his campaign, ": "I know that what works in Chicago may not work in Cheyenne. We can work together to enact common-sense laws, like closing the gun show loophole and improving our background check system, so that guns do not fall into the hands of terrorists or criminals."

    Even if Congress pushes this through, no way Obama goes along with it......snicker, snicker..
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    The good news, if there is any, is that there are no co-sponsors and nothing has happened with it since 22 June 2009 (from THOMAS (Library of Congress) ):

    S.1317
    Title: A bill to increase public safety by permitting the Attorney General to deny the transfer of firearms or the issuance of firearms and explosives licenses to known or suspected dangerous terrorists.
    Sponsor: Sen Lautenberg, Frank R. [NJ] (introduced 6/22/2009) Cosponsors (None)
    Related Bills: H.R.2159
    Latest Major Action: 6/22/2009 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on the Judiciary.
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    The fact is this is the same bill he offered in 2007, which quickly died. It is not going anywhere but it certainly does get people overly excited.

    Quick! Call your Congressman. This is the defining issue of our time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soonershoote View Post
    Now wait just a minute, I remember Obama saying, in his campaign, ": "I know that what works in Chicago may not work in Cheyenne. We can work together to enact common-sense laws, like closing the gun show loophole and improving our background check system, so that guns do not fall into the hands of terrorists or criminals.

    If "closing the gun show loophole" is common sense legislation (or even exists), no reason to think this bill is not "common sense" legislation to them either. If you spin something as it stopping terrorists from getting guns, who could be against that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cphilip View Post
    If you spin something as it stopping terrorists from getting guns, who could be against that?
    If it does stop terrorists from getting guns, who could be against that? Apparently most people on this forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cphilip View Post
    If you spin something as it stopping terrorists from getting guns, who could be against that?
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    By all means, we must make sure that terrorists have the ability to acquire new weapons.
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    If we do not jump on every oppurtunity to seize our own rights and disallow that action then it will happen before you know it. All it takes is a little Yay and not a nay to pass by 60!

    So each and everytime I will be jumping out of my seat to fight this crap.
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    No law can keep a criminal from doing something an honest citizen can do, so the gun controllers want to restrict honest citizens in hopes of restricting criminals. (Har. Har. Har.)

    Terrorists can get weapons smuggled to them, just as the drug gangs do. Head down to LA and ask around about getting a full auto AK - "No problem, man". But terrorists generally have links to governments, and so have potentially better supply lines.

    (Something to watch for, though: Requiring all citizens to be registered with the fedgov and carry papers, and, eventually, internal passports. The refusal to secure the southern border may well be preparation for this, building anti illegal sentiment to the point that people would willing to accept laws requiring them to carry their papers with them to prove they are not illegals. National ID can also be justified by requiring people to prove they are not criminals by carrying something that links to a national data base. What harm? Think of what the politician you distrust the most could do with such power. Someone worse /will/ be elected, sooner or later.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phillep Harding View Post
    No law can keep a criminal from doing something an honest citizen can do, so the gun controllers want to restrict honest citizens in hopes of restricting criminals. (Har. Har. Har.)
    I believe that they use the criminal to justify enacting laws to control the general populace. But I've been told I think backwards.

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