ACORN conspiracy against gun owners discovered

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    Exclamation ACORN conspiracy against gun owners discovered

    Law Enforcement Examiner Jim Kouri

    ACORN -- the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now -- a publicly funded national organization linked to voter fraud in several states, is now actively interfering with the exercise of firearm civil rights in New Jersey, and the Second Amendment Foundation is calling for an immediate federal investigation.

    One example of ACORN's gun control activism is when its officials intervened in an unsuccessful attempt to defend Jersey City, New Jersey's local gun control ordinance, which was struck down by the New Jersey state court as a violation of state law preempting stronger local gun ordinances.

    "ACORN has, since 1998, received an estimated $31 million in government funding," said SAF founder Alan Gottlieb. "Now they have intervened in a New Jersey gun rights case in defense of an illegal Jersey City one-gun-a-month ordinance that violates the state preemption statute."

    "For the past few election cycles," Gottlieb noted, "ACORN has clearly grown more partisan toward the political Left. ACORN'S PAC, in fact, endorsed Sen. Barack Obama for president, even though their tax-exempt status prohibits endorsement of political candidates. That's hardly surprising since he used to serve as their legal counsel and he taught the group about community organizing. ACORN and Obama are lockstep in seeking to destroy our Second Amendment rights," he stated.

    "The organization is currently under FBI investigation over allegations of voter fraud in several states," he added.

    "Bad enough that ACORN is implicated in fraudulent activities in several states, but now an ACORN chapter in the Garden State is working against the ability of New Jersey gun owners to exercise a constitutionally protected individual civil right to own a handgun," said former NYPD detective, Sid Frances.

    "It is an outrage that this group has intervened to defend an antigun ordinance that has already been declared illegal by the court," he observed. "So long as ACORN accepts one penny of public funding, the organization should remain absolutely neutral on social issues, political campaigns and especially legal actions defending the right to keep and bear arms."

    "We call upon the FBI to expand the scope of its ACORN investigation and focus on the group's involvement in the Jersey City case," Gottlieb stated.

    "We support Ohio Congressman John Boehner's request that the White House immediately block all federal funding of ACORN activities until this group's questionable activities are fully investigated. We want to know how they are paying for attorneys, and why Seton Hall's Center for Social Justice and the Public Interest Law Center are providing legal assistance to ACORN for this effort."

    "This is still the United States, not a socialist gulag," Gottlieb concluded. "Public money should not be given to private organizations which then turn around and utilize that funding to usurp the electoral process and erode constitutionally guaranteed civil rights."

    The fact that the federal government would even consider using ACORN as part of its 2010 Census is cause for Americans to be very concerned.

    Many political observers see something more sinister at play with Obama and ACORN's interest in disarming law-abiding citizens.

    "This gun control effort is part of an overall government takeover by the radical left who now control the White House, the Senate and the House of Representatives. The next part of the Obama-ACORN plan is a new military force separate from the US Armed Forces," claims political strategist Mike Baker.

    "Obama has called for a 'civilian national security force' as powerful as the U.S. military, comments that were ignored by the vast majority of the corporate media but compared by conservatives to the Nazi Hitler Youth," warns Baker.

    "We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded," said Obama during his presidential campaign.


    Jim Kouri, CPP is currently fifth vice-president of the National Association of Chiefs of Police and he's a staff writer for the New Media Alliance (thenma.org). In addition, he's the new editor for the House Conservatives Fund's weblog. Kouri also serves as political advisor for Emmy and Golden Globe winning actor Michael Moriarty.

    He's former chief at a New York City housing project in Washington Heights nicknamed "Crack City" by reporters covering the drug war in the 1980s. In addition, he served as director of public safety at a New Jersey university and director of security for several major organizations. He's also served on the National Drug Task Force and trained police and security officers throughout the country. Kouri writes for many police and security magazines including Chief of Police, Police Times, The Narc Officer and others. He's a news writer for TheConservativeVoice.Com and PHXnews.com. He's also a columnist for AmericanDaily.Com, MensNewsDaily.Com, MichNews.Com, and he's syndicated by AXcessNews.Com. He's appeared as on-air commentator for over 100 TV and radio news and talk shows including Oprah, McLaughlin Report, CNN Headline News, MTV, Fox News, etc.
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    John Boehner is not the only congressman who is demanding an investigation.

    Rep. King has been demanding it for a long time.

    YouTube - Rep King on ACORN systemic fraud pt 1/4 - Is ACORN Intentionally structured as a criminal enterprise

    However, Pelosi's party is blocking an investigation.
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    Quit making gun laws and we will have a civilian security force 8)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patti View Post
    However, Pelosi's party is blocking an investigation.
    ACORN is at least partly funded by taxpayer money. ACORN is actively seeking to tear down aspects of the Constitution. Congress critters are sworn to protect and defend the Constitution. Some smells in the sewer, here. But that shouldn't be a surprise. What's a surprise is that any block of such claims could succeed for very long.
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    In a related story, department stores report that brown shirts are selling like hotcakes.
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    I don't think ACORN is going to be going after anyone's guns anytime soon; I think they have drawn plenty of attention to themselves after the 2 incidents of conspiracy to commit tax fraud as well as prostitution involving minors, etc......

    I think some law enforcement agencies are going to start taking a hard look at investigating these people.....
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    partially funded?
    Hate to break the news to you'all but, they got a few billion in stimulus money.

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    Well, I was reading this weekend that U.S. Census Bureau has dumped ACORN, after the story broke with the release of video in which two undercover independent journalists revealed ACORN officials in both Washington DC and Baltimore conspired to assist (who were believed by ACORN at the time) to be a prostitute and her pimp with "political aspirations" defraud the IRS and obtain housing for the express purpose of opening a brothel to run an illegal sex ring out of the house, utilizing women who were not only illegal aliens, but also children as young as 14 and 15.

    The US Census Bureau has decided to cut ties with ACORN and no longer intends to utilize ACORN with collection of the upcoming US Census.

    It remains to be seen how Obama is going to react to this and see how it plays out since ACORN is uniquely suited (as a corrupt entity with a long running track record of voter fraud and election scams) to be able to skew or doctor census results in order for the far left radical political wing of the administration to maintain control of congress and keep republicans from regaining any portion of either the House or the Senate.

    So, while it's good for the Census Bureau to give ACORN the ax... It remains to be seen how it plays out! I don't count out Obama to put Rahm and Axelrod on the case to ensure ACORN remains a major player in collecting the US Census?

    You can bet that if ACORN is on the case, there is likely going to be information gathered about gun ownership, types of weapons and how they are stored in the home included in the census.

    Any takers on this bet?

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    And they were both carrying 1911's in Milt Sparks holsters right Bark'n since we DO want to keep this thread firearm related so that it doesn't get closed right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by QKShooter View Post
    And they were both carrying 1911's in Milt Sparks holsters right Bark'n since we DO want to keep this thread firearm related so that it doesn't get closed right?
    Eh, I'm not sure. Pretty pricey equipment there, but then again with enough Federal funding...
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    Absolutely QKShooter! It seems to me that I heard them say they weren't concerned for their safety, so naturally I made the leap to believe that they had to be carrying 1911's in Milt Sparks wickedly fabulous leather holsters!

    And besides, I tied guns into it with my bold highlighted remarks in the last paragraph.
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    Somehow, it really doesn't surprise me that ACORN would be found to be going after gun owners. I figured that would be found at some point.

    I sure would like to see a full blown investigation of them but, I doubt that the congress we have presently would do a very thorough job.
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    Anyone that doesn't believe that the political left doesn't want their guns doesn't understand the enemy very well, or is one of the enemy in disguise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BikerRN View Post
    Anyone that doesn't believe that the political left doesn't want their guns doesn't understand the enemy very well, or is one of the enemy in disguise.

    Biker
    I've always said that gun ownership is our last line of defense.

    We need to keep an eye on our congress critters.

    BTW, there is another breaking story about ACORN (I think in New York).

    I'm praying for the safety of Hanna Guiles and James O'Keefe....the young couple posing as pimp and prostitute.

    ACORN is threatening to sue them and is not offering any apologies.

    I suggest everyone contact their congressmen and demand answers.

    1. Why hasn't congress investigated this corrupt organization (ACORN). They are supposed to be bi-partisan, yet they clearly only support democrats. They have been convicted in 14 states of voter registration fraud. Have they also stuffed the ballots across the country?

    2. Why are they protecting ACORN?

    3. Why has congress given ACORN $31 million of our hard-earned tax dollars when they KNOW the organization is corrupt?

    Let's start demanding some answers!
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    Someone has to look into these clowns.
    There getting billions of dollars and a lot of attention right now.
    There all crooks!!
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