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    but then it could not be sensationalized!!
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    Hey they were kind enough to leave their contact data. Maybe a deluge of emails asking about some more objective facts...

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    It is likely that the actual number of fatal criminal incidents involving concealed handgun permit holders is far higher.
    Oh yeah, I'm sure their stats aren't biased or in an any way made up.
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    There needs to be some truth in advertising, they should change their website to ANTI-gunguys.com.
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    They are forgetting to add a box that shows the percentage of CCW permit gun deaths as compared to all gun deaths. Of course, they arent going to add a box that will sink the entire website on its own. They also need to take down the numbers for all cases that are not convictions. For LEOs that would leave them with only 2 instead of 8. Knowingly including pending cases in the counter is a clear attempt to present the most biased view possible
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    Quote Originally Posted by Queensidecas View Post
    They are forgetting to add ...
    They didn't forget anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Queensidecas View Post
    They are forgetting to add a box that shows the percentage of CCW permit gun deaths as compared to all gun deaths. Of course, they arent going to add a box that will sink the entire website on its own. They also need to take down the numbers for all cases that are not convictions. For LEOs that would leave them with only 2 instead of 8. Knowingly including pending cases in the counter is a clear attempt to present the most biased view possible
    And of those 8 police murders, I think 3 were by that 1 guy in Pittsburgh. I also wonder how many of the non-LEO killings were self defense. These stats are always twisted and omit essential information. Even if their stats are accurate, you have a much better chance of being struck by lightning than being killed by a CCWer or drowning in a bathtub.
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    This just in:

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