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    SCOTUS upholds firearms manufacturers immunity

    ...sticks it to Chicago. No joy in Mudville tonight!

    (no offense to the family of the dead child)

    Supreme Court turns away Cook County gun lawsuit - Chicago Breaking News

    Supreme Court turns away Cook County gun lawsuit
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    Ruling on a case from Cook County, the U.S. Supreme Court has turned away a new challenge to a 2005 law that gives gun manufacturers immunity from lawsuits by shooting victims.

    The justices refused today to hear an appeal from Hector Adames Jr. to revive his lawsuit against the Beretta U.S.A. Corp. over the accidental shooting death of his 13-year-old son on the Southwest Side of Chicago.

    The Illinois Supreme Court threw out the lawsuit, citing the federal 2005 Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act.

    Adames' son, Josh, was shot and killed by another 13-year-old boy who found his father's Beretta and removed the magazine containing the ammunition. He pointed the gun at Josh and pulled the trigger, not knowing that a bullet remained in the chamber.

    The boy's father was a Cook County correctional officer, and the Beretta was his service gun.

    Adames sued Beretta, saying the gun did not have the proper warnings or a safety mechanism that stops the gun from being fired without the magazine in place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paramedic70002 View Post
    ...sticks it to Chicago. No joy in Mudville tonight!

    (no offense to the family of the dead child)

    Supreme Court turns away Cook County gun lawsuit - Chicago Breaking News

    Supreme Court turns away Cook County gun lawsuit
    December 14, 2009 2:56 PM | No Comments
    Ruling on a case from Cook County, the U.S. Supreme Court has turned away a new challenge to a 2005 law that gives gun manufacturers immunity from lawsuits by shooting victims.

    The justices refused today to hear an appeal from Hector Adames Jr. to revive his lawsuit against the Beretta U.S.A. Corp. over the accidental shooting death of his 13-year-old son on the Southwest Side of Chicago.

    The Illinois Supreme Court threw out the lawsuit, citing the federal 2005 Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act.

    Adames' son, Josh, was shot and killed by another 13-year-old boy who found his father's Beretta and removed the magazine containing the ammunition. He pointed the gun at Josh and pulled the trigger, not knowing that a bullet remained in the chamber.

    The boy's father was a Cook County correctional officer, and the Beretta was his service gun.

    Adames sued Beretta, saying the gun did not have the proper warnings or a safety mechanism that stops the gun from being fired without the magazine in place.
    He's sueing Beretta for his negligence, nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shooterX View Post
    He's sueing Beretta for his [own] negligence, nice.
    Yep, that is exactly the case.


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    I'm not fond of the cables. My personal feeling is if you can't afford a safe, you can't afford to own a handgun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paramedic70002 View Post
    ...sticks it to Chicago. No joy in Mudville tonight!

    (no offense to the family of the dead child)

    Supreme Court turns away Cook County gun lawsuit - Chicago Breaking News

    Supreme Court turns away Cook County gun lawsuit
    December 14, 2009 2:56 PM | No Comments
    Ruling on a case from Cook County, the U.S. Supreme Court has turned away a new challenge to a 2005 law that gives gun manufacturers immunity from lawsuits by shooting victims.

    The justices refused today to hear an appeal from Hector Adames Jr. to revive his lawsuit against the Beretta U.S.A. Corp. over the accidental shooting death of his 13-year-old son on the Southwest Side of Chicago.

    The Illinois Supreme Court threw out the lawsuit, citing the federal 2005 Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act.

    Adames' son, Josh, was shot and killed by another 13-year-old boy who found his father's Beretta and removed the magazine containing the ammunition. He pointed the gun at Josh and pulled the trigger, not knowing that a bullet remained in the chamber.

    The boy's father was a Cook County correctional officer, and the Beretta was his service gun.

    Adames sued Beretta, saying the gun did not have the proper warnings or a safety mechanism that stops the gun from being fired without the magazine in place.
    As usual someone blaming someone else for their mistakes.
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    Maybe the dad was just looking for income for life, since I certainly hope he lost his job as a result of letting his service pistol be used by a child to kill another child.

    Glad his suit was tossed out. It was his actions that caused this tragedy, not Berettas.
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    I had 3 of those locks break under normal use. I cannot recommend them.
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    Good for the court. In our nation almost everyone want to blame someone else for any problem they have.
    Glad it did not work this time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daddy Warcrimes View Post
    I had 3 of those locks break under normal use. I cannot recommend them.
    You get hat you pay for and they hand those things out for free.

    I've been able to use the key for one to open many of same as well as the trigger lock on a friends long gun that he had loaned me only he forget to provide the locks key.

    The point being that this is the _minimum_ standard to safely secure a firearm.
    Optimal is to disassemble it as into individual parts, place pieces in a bag, place bag in a hole, fill hole with quick dry cement, take a back hoe and dig up cement mass, drive backhoe to a private lake, select bucket drop lever...gun secure.

    Somewhere in between that and nothing at all lies the use of cable locks as a minimum standard as when there are children within ones home with any regularity (high or low) and who by that may by an off chance have access to or 'find' ones firearm(s).

    If this gun owning parent had used even a simple and free cable lock it would have had a far higher active likelihood of preventing this boy from shooting himself dead...than having nothing at all and/or equivocating about how sometimes locks break under strain or that the key ways aren't exactly up to safety deposit box standards.

    Normal use for these is as temporary and emergency, not as a long term enduring solution.
    A proper gun safe or securely locked cabinet will far less likely fail as under normal use.

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    ....my family all of us can pick those free cable locks with a paper clip in 10 seconds.
    I know not what this "overkill" means.

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