Bernie Madoff's son is gunning for a pistol permit.
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December 27th, 2009 03:28 PM
Bernie Madoff's son is gunning for a pistol permit.
Andrew Madoff, 43, applied for a license to keep a handgun in his swanky Upper East Side pad more than six months ago -- and his name appears on NYPD and state police lists of approved permit holders.
This despite Andrew's allegedly punching out a former employee on the street and going through an ugly divorce.
A high-ranking NYPD insider said Andrew's dust-up with ex-worker Reed Abend in January should have disqualified him.
"I would think that if the license division knew about that, they would suspend his permit immediately," the source said.
The alleged January smackdown happened when Abend, 37, confronted Andrew about getting stiffed on a $450,000 bonus. Abend told The Post Andrew clocked him in the head, sending him to the hospital. No one was arrested.
The NYPD issues permits at the police commissioner's discretion -- and commonly gives them to those with clean records and no history of mental or substance problems.
In response to a Freedom of Information request by The Post in September, the NYPD provided a list of 36,040 permit holders last week, saying the names were verified and up to date as of Dec. 18.
Asked about Madoff's permit, the NYPD then said its records were wrong -- that he applied but has not been approved.
But a spokesman for the State Police -- which gets permit information from counties across the state and New York City -- said Andrew Madoff is on its roster of license holders.
The NYPD's answers confused even Madoff's lawyer.
"Andrew Madoff did apply for a permit to have a gun in his home, and that was well over six months ago," Martin Flumenbaum said. "He has not heard anything -- one way or another -- from the NYPD."
The NYPD is required by law to approve a gun permit application within six months or explain why it was rejected.
The Madoffs have worn a bulls-eye since Wall Street weasel Bernie copped to a $65 billion Ponzi scheme. He wore a bulletproof vest to court.
Andrew's wife filed for divorce the same day his father was charged last December.
The NYPD list of permit holders was fraught with problems. The list includes former state Senate Majority Leader Joe Bruno, who was convicted this month of mail and wire fraud. But the NYPD said Bruno's license was yanked when he was indicted on Jan. 23.
"That's the typical NYPD bureaucracy," said New York City gun lawyer Jerold Levine. "If you press them and catch them, then their answer will be, 'We did nothing wrong, and we will never do it again.' "
Cops said there are 36,040 current permit holders, down from 36,937 in 2008. They revoked 209 permits in 2009.
The following have NYPD pistol permits:
Howard Stern, satellite shock jock
Don Imus, syndicated shock jock
Harvey Keitel, actor
Sean Hannity, TV host
Donald Trump, developer
Donald Trump Jr.
Ronald Lauder, Estee Lauder heir
Carlos Delgado, ex-Mets first baseman
David Wright, Mets third baseman
Lee Mazzilli, former Met and Yankee
Barry Levinson, director
Tommy Mottola, recording exec
John Mack, CEO of Morgan Stanley
John Catsimatidis, Gristedes CEO
Alexis Stewart, Martha’s daughter
Dr. Robert Jarvik, artificial heart inventor
Richard Brown, Queens DA
Janet DiFiore, Westchester DA
Barry Slotnick, lawyer
Raoul Felder, lawyer
Pat Cooper, comedian
Anthony Carbonetti,Giuliani Partners
December 27th, 2009 03:45 PM
Funny how the rules change for the annointed.
December 27th, 2009 03:53 PM
I'm glad to see Hannity on there. He probably has more than a few left wing wack-jobs ready to gun him down to prove the point that he is wrong and guns are evil.
December 27th, 2009 04:20 PM
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December 27th, 2009 04:30 PM
Originally Posted by matdicdad
These bozos for the city/state all too often pick and choose who is bestowed a permit,,, shameful -corrupt process
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December 27th, 2009 04:38 PM
While the folks on the list might think they are the "Elite" for being allowed this special privelage, us folks here in the US think it is a right.
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December 27th, 2009 09:03 PM
Please try to understand the logic.
IF you are a famous person or a celebrity then "crazy-scumbag-type" people may try to do you harm or possibly even kill you...and so you deserve a license to carry a firearm in order to protect yourself and your family.
BUT, if you are just a cab driver (or other relatively unknown personage) and some crazy scumbag tries to do you harm or possibly even kill you...then you are "out of luck" because somebody is not trying to kill you because you are rich or famous...they are just trying to harm or kill you for a myriad of other less important reasons.
No do you understand?
December 27th, 2009 09:15 PM
Ok, I guess this rank should have come over here instead.
Exactly: Celebs can carry them because we all know they need protecting from the BGs that normal folks will never encounter because normal folks have those bodyguards that celebs don't have and police protection or private security, we all know that, that's why they need a CCP. I thought everyone knew that.
Just ask Rosie O'Donnell who's against guns adamently unless your her bodyguard, then it's alright.
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December 27th, 2009 09:22 PM
Yep, SEE doesn't it all make sense now?
If you are a "celeb" & can afford armed bodyguards then you don't need to carry a gun to protect yourself...so then you are able to fashionably hate guns as long as you yourself are protected.
It's SO simple!
December 28th, 2009 01:15 PM
LOL @ NYC
Where does at the discretion of the Police for a permit fall under our constitution as a legal means of upholding the rights of the second Amendment?
Hence why I will never even visit NYC. I have never been there nor do I ever want to.
Closest I have been was DC and only because an extremely close friend was having a wedding there. Only reason I would ever go unarmed especially going to DC.
I think he should be allowed to get his permit. If they deny him a permit then he needs to move to another state. If he stays and gets shot im sorry it was his choice and he will not get my condolences.
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December 28th, 2009 01:54 PM
Why is it that State governments can trump the Federal government when it comes to laws such as this ?? That's almost like me the civilian telling some LEO that he will do what I say.
Originally Posted by rottkeeper
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December 28th, 2009 02:12 PM
Note a fairly important distinction:
In NYC, a license to keep a handgun in your home is not all that special. Most any NYC resident can get one if they have a clean record, a lawyer to file the paperwork, go through multiple fingerprinting and interviews, wait 6 months, and pay the $500 in fees. This is not a license to carry, only to own, posses in your home, and transport (unloaded and in a container) a pistol.
Andrew Madoff, 43, applied for a license to keep a handgun in his swanky Upper East Side pad
The second half of the article "Packing Heat" implies the persons have concealed carry permits. These are specifically reserved for the influential and famous...
The following have NYPD pistol permits:
...a poorly researched article at best
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December 29th, 2009 06:44 PM
Glad Hannity is on also, no surprise!
December 29th, 2009 07:29 PM
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