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Colorado Sheriff Says He'll Actively Undermine Gun Ban On Campus

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigStick View Post
    Pixs, you seem to be thoughtful and intelligent, and for those reasons, I am glad you are joining the forum. Welcome. I agree with your assertion that "liberal" is a great word that should be applied in many places, and that the current understanding and how it is used in political terms is a perversion of the actual meaning. I hate it when idealogs steal good words and corrupt them. But that being said, if you are going to read this forum regularly, you should probably get used to reading peoples comments using the word "liberal" as a bad reference to the left-wing political spectrum. Although, I would support a movement where gun owners and others start using the term correctly and calling ourselves liberal supporters of the right to keep and bear arms. It would be great to see the looks on faces as they struggled to understand exactly what was being said.
    Thank you Big Stick, I will try my very best to put my understanding of the English language aside for the benefit of the folks that don't understand that they are actually Liberals. LOL, I had no intention to offend.
    Edit: oops, I forgot to capitalize Big Stick's name, sorry.


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    I too sent a letter. What a real, true stand up MAN!
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    If it is ok to disarm legal citizens to reduce crime, then doesn't it stand to disband the military to prevent war?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigStick View Post
    Pixs, you seem to be thoughtful and intelligent, and for those reasons, I am glad you are joining the forum. Welcome. I agree with your assertion that "liberal" is a great word that should be applied in many places, and that the current understanding and how it is used in political terms is a perversion of the actual meaning. I hate it when idealogs steal good words and corrupt them. But that being said, if you are going to read this forum regularly, you should probably get used to reading peoples comments using the word "liberal" as a bad reference to the left-wing political spectrum. Although, I would support a movement where gun owners and others start using the term correctly and calling ourselves liberal supporters of the right to keep and bear arms. It would be great to see the looks on faces as they struggled to understand exactly what was being said.


    Oh, that is great! And so true!
    “The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnklFungus
    If it is ok to disarm legal citizens to reduce crime, then doesn't it stand to disband the military to prevent war?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thanis View Post
    I don't disagree with the sheriff. Still, I'm not sure where I am on if this LEO is doing the right thing. There are a number of times LEOs do the opposite, and this forum is filled with hundreds of posts on how those LEOs should be voted out or place in jail.

    What if this was an anti-2a LEO who stated he would "...undermine it in the interest of student safety..." some vote that allowed students to be armed?
    The obvious difference is that this Sheriff is going against a Campus "Policy" in order to uphold the law and the Oath he swore to God to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States. IMO the sheriff's that do not do so are guilty of treason which should be a capitol crime. Sheriff James Alderden is obviously an honorable man who believes that the oath he swore to God is supposed to mean something. Many of his peers could learn something from him
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pixs View Post
    [B][I]This really bugs the hell out of me! Liberals are not stupid
    I actually understand your "feelings" but again we are confronted with facts versus feelings. If you are going to take offenses be offended by the majority of liberals who consistently fight for governmental control intervention under the guise of governmental protection or entitlement programs. Liberal who willingly forfeit personal responsibility for a free meal. If liberal has become a dirty word to liberty loving Americans don't blame us. Blame your liberal president, the liberal congress and liberal senate. Who are doing all they can to make us all subjects of the united nations.

    Seems that libertarians may more closely represent to the values you claim to support than the liberal platform
    Abort the Obamanation not the Constitution

    Those who would, deny, require permit, license, certification, or authorization for me to bear arms are as vile, dangerous & evil as those who would molest, abuse, assault, rape or murder my family

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    Quote Originally Posted by LongRider View Post
    I actually understand your "feelings" but again we are confronted with facts versus feelings. If you are going to take offenses be offended by the majority of liberals who consistently fight for governmental control intervention under the guise of governmental protection or entitlement programs. Liberal who willingly forfeit personal responsibility for a free meal. If liberal has become a dirty word to liberty loving Americans don't blame us. Blame your liberal president, the liberal congress and liberal senate. Who are doing all they can to make us all subjects of the united nations.

    Seems that libertarians may more closely represent to the values you claim to support than the liberal platform

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    Quote Originally Posted by LongRider View Post
    I actually understand your "feelings" but again we are confronted with facts versus feelings. If you are going to take offenses be offended by the majority of liberals who consistently fight for governmental control intervention under the guise of governmental protection or entitlement programs. Liberal who willingly forfeit personal responsibility for a free meal. If liberal has become a dirty word to liberty loving Americans don't blame us. Blame your liberal president, the liberal congress and liberal senate. Who are doing all they can to make us all subjects of the united nations.

    Seems that libertarians may more closely represent to the values you claim to support than the liberal platform
    Right on. The word "liberal" was hijacked by progressives and socialists 80 years ago, and in this country, that is unlikely to change. The rest of the world remembers what the word "liberal" means and take it to be the roughly the same as we see libertarian to mean here. Trying to retake the old liberal meaning seems a lost cause here...

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    Quote Originally Posted by LongRider View Post
    The obvious difference is that this Sheriff is going against a Campus "Policy" in order to uphold the law and the Oath he swore to God to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States. IMO the sheriff's that do not do so are guilty of treason which should be a capitol crime. Sheriff James Alderden is obviously an honorable man who believes that the oath he swore to God is supposed to mean something. Many of his peers could learn something from him
    Thxs for reply. Cleared up, if I understand, he is upholding state law and the Constitution, and the campus policy is not following that (those) laws.
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    Wow, bravo to the sheriff for taking a stand. I hope he and his department are blessed with support from their community and peace in their county.
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