March 2nd, 2010 07:56 PM
gun ban due to UN treaty
I received a call from the NRA yesterday asking for a donation to curb the actions of the United Nations to outlaw guns by treaty with other nations. Has any one else received such a call? When I give to the NRA its usually through the mail. I would appreciate any thoughts you all might have on this.
March 2nd, 2010 08:10 PM
I have but one sincere and honest thought.
come and take them.
March 2nd, 2010 08:39 PM
My thoughts are this is alarmist bravo Sierra. Any sources cited?
March 2nd, 2010 08:45 PM
Scary because it would be a legal gray area, but in practice I think the chances of it actually happening are near zero.
Public support for something like this would probably be like 5-10%...people would be really angry.
Basically, I'm not worried about a treaty. My primary concern for the future is ordinary laws, which of course you can deal with through elections.
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March 2nd, 2010 08:54 PM
Treaties may not abrogate or modify the Constitution, and where a treaty conflicts with the Constitution, the treaty is void. See Reid v. Covert (1957).
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Blame it on Sixto - now that is a viable plan.
March 2nd, 2010 09:06 PM
+1 Not to mention they must be passed by a 2/3 vote in the senate.
Originally Posted by MattInFla
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March 2nd, 2010 09:10 PM
Here's a semi-pseudo-news story on the topic (written as news but I can't confirm them as being a news source)
U.N. gun ban faces pre-emptive attack
I've heard bits and pieces of this in the internet rumor mill, but it may give you a basis to do some more in depth research on your own.
March 2nd, 2010 09:21 PM
IIRC it would have to pass through Congress. I don't believe it's one of those things someone can just sign and we are done. I could be wrong on this, anyone know for sure. And then there is the constitutionality issue. But there is a push for nations to sign onto a small arms compact with the UN. It's real, it exists, I don't think it's very feasible here though. It is supposed to deal with illicit/illegal gun sales, but whether or not is stops there is the issue I think.
March 2nd, 2010 10:20 PM
Look here article about half way down the page:
Then a petition here...same folks:
National Association for Gun Rights
“Owning a handgun doesn’t make you armed any more than owning a guitar makes you a musician.” Jeff Cooper
March 2nd, 2010 11:03 PM
No call here. Just letters and e-mails. They want a cc number?
March 3rd, 2010 03:08 AM
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