URGENT ALERT: ACT NOW -- FL Bill (SB-530) to STOP Gun Registration Up Thursday

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    Arrow URGENT ALERT: ACT NOW -- FL Bill (SB-530) to STOP Gun Registration Up Thursday

    Let us help stop ANY registration of firearms. Registration is the precursor to confiscation. If we let them get away with this then they will take further steps to start making others register their firearms. If someone else's liberty is being violated then our liberty is being violated!

    We MUST prevent ALL attempts to register any firearms. This can only work against law abiding citizens since criminals NEVER would register any of their illegal firearms.

    Please help me get this word out...

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    URGENT ALERT: ACT NOW -- Bill to STOP Gun Registration Up Thursday


    DATE: March 2, 2010
    TO: USF & NRA Members and Friends
    FROM: Marion P. Hammer
    USF Executive Director
    NRA Past President

    SB-530 by Sen. Thad Altman is scheduled for a hearing in the Senate Committee on Children, Families and Elder Affairs on Thursday, March 4, 2010.

    SB-530 is a bill to STOP Florida adoption agencies from forcing potential adoptive parents to register their firearms with the agency as a condition of adoption. Further, it will stop agencies from forcing these parents to follow gun control regulations regarding storage of firearms and ammunition created by the agency.

    This outrageous behavior has been going on too long and it is time to stop it once and for all.

    Sen. Altman's bill will stop this gun registration and regulation.

    PLEASE IMMEDIATELY EMAIL Members of the Committee on Children and Families

    In the subject line put:

    SUPPORT SB-530 -- Stop Gun Registration by Adoption Agencies

    (Block and Copy All email addresses into the "Send To" box)

    storms.ronda.web@flsenate.gov,
    detert.nancy.web@flsenate.gov,
    garcia.rudy.web@flsenate.gov,
    hill.tony.web@flsenate.gov,
    justice.charlie.web@flsenate.gov,
    portilla.alex.web@flsenate.gov,
    rich.nan.web@flsenate.gov,
    wise.stephen.web@flsenate.gov,

    BACKGROUND

    Adoption agencies in Florida are effectively profiling prospective adoptive parents who own firearms.

    Agencies have been treating applicants for adoption, who chose to exercise the constitutional right to own a firearm, differently than non-firearms owning applicants.

    As a condition of adoption, prospective parents who own firearms must agree to regulations and restriction imposed by the agency.

    At least one agency requires prospective parents who own a firearm or firearms, to store the firearms and ammunition separately in locked cabinets - rendering the right of self-defense and defense of family virtually impossible.

    Further, applicants who own firearms are required to register their firearms and ammunition with the agency.

    The agency not only requires applicants to separately list the firearms and the ammunition they own on a form created by the agency, but also requires them to report to the agency exactly where the firearms and ammunition are stored.

    These agencies have set themselves above the law and have ignored the statutes.


    State law regulates the safe storage of firearms. F.S. 790.174, regulates how firearms must be stored and provides criminal penalties when firearms are accessed by minors due to a failure to store firearms safely.

    State law prohibits agencies from attempting to regulate firearms. F.S. 790.33 prohibits any regulation of firearms except by the Legislature. The Legislature exclusively occupies the whole field of regulation of firearms and ammunition.

    State law prohibits registration of firearms. F.S. 790.335 prohibits the compiling of and retention of lists of firearms owners and firearms. Forms required by some adoption agencies constitute a registry of firearms and firearms owners.


    Under 790.335(4)(a), office managers and officials who are a party to the collection and storage of firearms registration documents commit a felony of the third degree.

    Under 790.335(4)(c) these agencies or organizations, as licensed agencies acting on behalf of the government, who register firearms are subject to a fine of up to $5 million.

    While some adoption agencies have attempted to claim their firearms regulations and forms were authorized or required by DCF, DCF actually repealed those regulations in April, 2008.

    This bill makes it clear that adoption agencies may not condition adoption on a person's exercise of a constitutional right or a person's willingness to disclose private information concerning lawful firearms ownership - nor may adoption agencies impose restrictions on firearms ownership.

    This bill codifies in law, that adoption agencies may not violate rights, profile or discriminate against firearms owners who seek to foster or adopt children.

    Prospective parents seeking to adopt and make a home for a child are particularly vulnerable to abusive tactics of agency officials and personnel who appear to have a predisposition against firearms owners.

    Forcing prospective parents to submit to requirements that usurp their legal rights and violate their privacy is nothing short of coercion. It must be stopped.
    "Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the people's liberty teeth keystone... more than 99% of them by their silence indicate that they are in safe and sane hands. The very atmosphere of firearms everywhere restrains evil interference."
    - GEORGE WASHINGTON

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    Interesting. If the SCOTUS rules in favor of McDonald (McDonald vs. Chicago), and incorporates the 2A, won't profiling gun owners be illegal, as the 2A as a civil right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIGguy229 View Post
    Interesting. If the SCOTUS rules in favor of McDonald (McDonald vs. Chicago), and incorporates the 2A, won't profiling gun owners be illegal, as the 2A as a civil right?
    I suppose it will be illegal and it should be. But under the current Florida statutes building any database is currently illegal. We have not got a ruling in the McDonald vs Chicago case yet but we need to pray that it goes our way...
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    The SCOTUS ruling on McDonald will be extremely narrow (IMO), as was Heller. I am guessing that we will be left with "reasonable regulation" at the state and local level. I am Not an attorney, just my "read" on this.
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    Thumbs up Update

    Thanks to all who took the time to write to our Senators! Another victory for gunowners and for freedom being upheld.

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    REPORT -- ROUND 6
    Bill to STOP Gun Registration Passed Committee 7- 0


    DATE: March 4, 2010
    TO: USF & NRA Members and Friends
    FROM: Marion P. Hammer
    USF Executive Director
    NRA Past President

    SB-530 by Senator Thad Altman was heard in the Senate Committee on Children, Families and Elder Affairs this morning (Thursday, March 4, 2010) and passed by a vote of 7 to 0.

    SB-530 is a bill to STOP Florida adoption agencies from forcing potential adoptive parents to register their firearms with the agency as a condition of adoption. Further, it will stop agencies from forcing these parents to follow gun control regulations regarding storage of firearms and ammunition created by the agency.

    VOTING FOR THE BILL:
    storms.ronda.web@flsenate.gov,
    detert.nancy.web@flsenate.gov,
    garcia.rudy.web@flsenate.gov,
    hill.tony.web@flsenate.gov,
    justice.charlie.web@flsenate.gov,
    rich.nan.web@flsenate.gov,
    wise.stephen.web@flsenate.gov,

    ABSENT:
    portilla.alex.web@flsenate.gov,

    There is no doubt your emails helped committee members understand this issue. Thank you for your emails that continue to help us protect firearms rights.
    "Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the people's liberty teeth keystone... more than 99% of them by their silence indicate that they are in safe and sane hands. The very atmosphere of firearms everywhere restrains evil interference."
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