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Originally Posted by SelfDefense
The external threats are real, all too real, as the recent tests of nuclear weapons and missiled by North Korea demonstrate..
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No one said external threats aren't real. The thread however was started over what I think is a somewhat imaginary threat; an unrealistic fear that there is a great international conspiracy to deprive us of our independence and subordinate us to some UN run conspiracy. That part smack of conspiracy theory to me.
As for the real external threats, we can't face them if we are not strong; and right now we are not strong. We are vulnerable to oil blackmail as just one example.
Maybe you were correctly taught in school that one of our real problems during WWII, a shortage of natural rubber (which then was in the control of our enemy, Japan), was "miraculously" solved by timely invention. That our strength to respond to our enemies came from our industrial base and its capacity to make steel and ships, and guns, and other armament.
What in the world is liberal or libertarian about wanting to have a country that is not dependent on its enemies for oil, and has the capacity to build stuff within an existing viable industrial infrastructure instead of a collapsing auto industry, and a marginalized steel industry.
Let's solve our problems instead of imagine our problems.
As for your comment on food, you are the one who is mistaken. We import huge amounts of our food from around the world. We are not self-sufficient.
As for population issues, do the math. We have approximately 6 million square miles (2K X 3K miles) land mass. And a population which is at least 3 X 10 (8). Try the division and see how many folks we have per square mile, how many acres of land there are per person, and then divide it by 2 to account for the fact that lots of land isn't useful for agriculture. And, that doesn't even get into the water resources issues which you should be aware of as an Arizonan.
As usual, your ideological viewpoint leads you to naive conclusions about our future ability to sustain ourselves. Fortunately, the problems are fixable. Unfortunately, we probably won't, due in part to the ideology of some as yourself.