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Originally Posted by Hopyard
No one said external threats aren't real. The thread however was started over what I think is a somewhat imaginary threat; an unrealistic fear that there is a great international conspiracy to deprive us of our independence and subordinate us to some UN run conspiracy. That part smack of conspiracy theory to me.
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On that point we agree completely. The one world governmenters, the North American Union, and all the other nonsense we read about is simply wierd. How can rational people believe that Russia, China, The United States and other wealthy nations would ever give up their sovereignty to a putz like Soros?
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As for the real external threats, we can't face them if we are not strong; and right now we are not strong.
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We are as strong as ever. Obama is currently dismantling our defenses but at the present time we have proven missile defenses, precision weapons, a tactical nuclear arsenal, the highest technology weapons the world can develop and a fighting force second to none.
It is a myth to think we are not the strongest, most agile, and have the best military in the world.
[QUOTE}We are vulnerable to oil blackmail as just one example.[/QUOTE]
We have plenty of oil and coal. Enough to last for many decades without a single drop from our trading partners. People make a big deal about oil, but even the 'peak oil' crowd have been shown to be wrong.
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Maybe you were correctly taught in school that one of our real problems during WWII, a shortage of natural rubber (which then was in the control of our enemy, Japan), was "miraculously" solved by timely invention. That our strength to respond to our enemies came from our industrial base and its capacity to make steel and ships, and guns, and other armament.
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Of course, that still exists. If we really had a crisis, which Obama is leading us towards, we will not be held hostage to overpaid union members. The unions will rightfully be crushed (think the air traffic controlers...) and America will do what needs to be done.
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What in the world is liberal or libertarian about wanting to have a country that is not dependent on its enemies for oil, and has the capacity to build stuff within an existing viable industrial infrastructure instead of a collapsing auto industry, and a marginalized steel industry.
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You are referring to the interference of the Federal government in issues that have no basis in the Constitution. Their meddling has caused problems that would not exist if the People would limit their power, as the Constitution mandates. We are dependent on no nation. We have the people, the resources, and the technology. That we are not a nuclear powered nation is the fault of a bunch of people that have no clue. Energy is cheap and abundant. It is not even an issue.
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Let's solve our problems instead of imagine our problems.
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So you are a proponent of offshore drilling, coal mining and building nuclear power plants? Deep down you are a conservative!
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As for your comment on food, you are the one who is mistaken. We import huge amounts of our food from around the world. We are not self-sufficient.
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We import food because of government regulations!
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As for population issues, do the math. We have approximately 6 million square miles (2K X 3K miles) land mass. And a population which is at least 3 X 10 (8). Try the division and see how many folks we have per square mile, how many acres of land there are per person, and then divide it by 2 to account for the fact that lots of land isn't useful for agriculture. And, that doesn't even get into the water resources issues which you should be aware of as an Arizonan.
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Exactly. There is no population issuel we have more than enough space. Try Hong Kong if you want to see what population density is all about. Or India.
We should encourage our people to be fruitful and multiply. God knows our enemies are goinf to win by demongrapics alone if we adopt your population control ideas. Isn;t murdering 50 million Americans enough? How many more shall we kill?
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As usual, your ideological viewpoint leads you to naive conclusions about our future ability to sustain ourselves. Fortunately, the problems are fixable. Unfortunately, we probably won't, due in part to the ideology of some as yourself.
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Limit government as the Founders inteded and the free market will solve all the problems. Government has no chance at all to solve any problem.