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I don't know about he 185 grain loading, but I do know that the 165 grain load hits like a truck. I shot a 300 lb pig with one a few years back and it dropped the pig like a thunderbolt....The slug expanded to a nickel-sized mushroom that I dug out from behind his ear.
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