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chloyd · January 3rd, 2007, 12:19 AM

My wife recieved a phone call from a friend of ours in Arkansas yesterday. I wish I had a news clip to post of the story, but it has been too long. The friends cousin and her boyfriend were shot and killed by her ex-husband a couple days before Christmas. Apparently the couple had gone shopping with her infant son (ex-husband was father) and when they came back, he was waiting in the woods behind her house. As they got out of the car, they were ambushed. It just so happened that there was one other adult in the house at the time, and the ex-husband took the son inside to the other adult, and then went back out and shot himself. To me, one of the worst parts of the whole thing was that she already had a restraining order against him.

I think that everybody on this forum knows that those things are a joke, and don't really do anything to prevent crimes. Anybody who has brought one down on themselves has probably already committed at least one crime, and won't care about another...especially if they don't plan on living anyway.

I don't know all the details, and didn't want to pry given the circumstances, so I'm not sure whether he stayed in the woods and shot them with rifle, or if he crept up on them with a handgun. In a later discussion with my wife I was stating that as soon as she got the restraining order it would have been a good idea to have gotten a defensive pistol, some good training, and a carry permit. My wife's question was "would that have actually helped her?" All I could tell her was that it would have given her tools to protect herself, and she would have had at least somewhat of a better chance, particularly if he used a handgun. My heart and prayers go out to the family, especially her children. If anybody in my life ever finds themselves having to procure a restraining order, I am going to make extra effort to get them to take more measures of protection besides the order.

January 3rd, 2007, 12:19 AM	#1
chloyd New Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 13	Restraining orders??? My wife recieved a phone call from a friend of ours in Arkansas yesterday. I wish I had a news clip to post of the story, but it has been too long. The friends cousin and her boyfriend were shot and killed by her ex-husband a couple days before Christmas. Apparently the couple had gone shopping with her infant son (ex-husband was father) and when they came back, he was waiting in the woods behind her house. As they got out of the car, they were ambushed. It just so happened that there was one other adult in the house at the time, and the ex-husband took the son inside to the other adult, and then went back out and shot himself. To me, one of the worst parts of the whole thing was that she already had a restraining order against him. I think that everybody on this forum knows that those things are a joke, and don't really do anything to prevent crimes. Anybody who has brought one down on themselves has probably already committed at least one crime, and won't care about another...especially if they don't plan on living anyway. I don't know all the details, and didn't want to pry given the circumstances, so I'm not sure whether he stayed in the woods and shot them with rifle, or if he crept up on them with a handgun. In a later discussion with my wife I was stating that as soon as she got the restraining order it would have been a good idea to have gotten a defensive pistol, some good training, and a carry permit. My wife's question was "would that have actually helped her?" All I could tell her was that it would have given her tools to protect herself, and she would have had at least somewhat of a better chance, particularly if he used a handgun. My heart and prayers go out to the family, especially her children. If anybody in my life ever finds themselves having to procure a restraining order, I am going to make extra effort to get them to take more measures of protection besides the order. __________________ "The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. - Thomas Jefferson