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Daddy Warcrimes · January 5th, 2007, 05:34 PM

Not much use for a scope one one of those. If you do, get a wide one that will give you a lot of flexibility with the relief. Stick with one power setting, preferably under 4X. I don't like the carry handle mounts because they do still interfere with the sight picture, are slow to remove, and don't re-zero when you take them off. At least a flip up back up iron sight is a good idea when using a scope.

I've not used the ACOG, but I've seen the price tag. For what I've seen those listed for you could instead get the ECLAN (quite possibly the ugliest optic in existance). I like them. Illuminated reticle with range markings, something like 3.25X and the glass is huge.

Another interesting optic is the Leupold Mark 4 CQ/T. I've not used one but the idea of a variable 1-3X with illuminated reticle appeals to me.

For a reflex sight, get one that doesn't interfere with the iron sights. If you want to loose the carry hand (they're pretty much worthless anyway) you can get just the rear sight to save space on the rail.

I've fired an M-16 with several different aiming configurations.
Standard iron sights: Only downside I found was it's much harder to shoot with the non-dominant side. I shoot 39/40 right handed, 24/40 left. Front sight post will eventually require blackening with a lighter or other method.
Reflex sight: When mounted forward of the carry handle, and with both eyes open (like the manual says I'm supposed to use it) I see 2 reticles. When mounted on the upper receiver it worked fine. I shot 38/40 right hand, 34/40 left. Big advantage of the reflex sight, you can shoot easily with the non-dominant eye.
Downsides: the batteries ran dead, parts fell off, the honeycomb anti-reflection insert (uncommon outside of the military) looks pretty odd at 1X (3X and above you can't even see it)
4X Tapco scope (paid about $30): not much help on the range. Tighter shot group but still only 39/40 targets. During force on force training, it helped with target identification.

January 5th, 2007, 05:34 PM	#7
Daddy Warcrimes Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Kansas Posts: 474	Not much use for a scope one one of those. If you do, get a wide one that will give you a lot of flexibility with the relief. Stick with one power setting, preferably under 4X. I don't like the carry handle mounts because they do still interfere with the sight picture, are slow to remove, and don't re-zero when you take them off. At least a flip up back up iron sight is a good idea when using a scope. I've not used the ACOG, but I've seen the price tag. For what I've seen those listed for you could instead get the ECLAN (quite possibly the ugliest optic in existance). I like them. Illuminated reticle with range markings, something like 3.25X and the glass is huge. Another interesting optic is the Leupold Mark 4 CQ/T. I've not used one but the idea of a variable 1-3X with illuminated reticle appeals to me. For a reflex sight, get one that doesn't interfere with the iron sights. If you want to loose the carry hand (they're pretty much worthless anyway) you can get just the rear sight to save space on the rail. I've fired an M-16 with several different aiming configurations. Standard iron sights: Only downside I found was it's much harder to shoot with the non-dominant side. I shoot 39/40 right handed, 24/40 left. Front sight post will eventually require blackening with a lighter or other method. Reflex sight: When mounted forward of the carry handle, and with both eyes open (like the manual says I'm supposed to use it) I see 2 reticles. When mounted on the upper receiver it worked fine. I shot 38/40 right hand, 34/40 left. Big advantage of the reflex sight, you can shoot easily with the non-dominant eye. Downsides: the batteries ran dead, parts fell off, the honeycomb anti-reflection insert (uncommon outside of the military) looks pretty odd at 1X (3X and above you can't even see it) 4X Tapco scope (paid about $30): not much help on the range. Tighter shot group but still only 39/40 targets. During force on force training, it helped with target identification. __________________ "and suddenly I can not hold back my sword hand's anger" DW blog