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Old January 8th, 2007, 10:38 PM   #1
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AR-15 platform: gas piston, or gas impingement?

Am considering an AR-15 style rifle, but specifically want to understand the pros/cons of one specific system, at this point: the gas system.

In particular, I would like specific feedback from folks that have direct experience with either (a) a standard AR with gas-impingement operation, or (b) a variant AR with gas-piston operation, or (c) both.

To my way of thinking, dumping hot and dirty gas from the end of the barrel into the action mechanisms doesn't seem a very smart thing to do. Yeah, I know: the troops have used this for a long time. A number of companies are trying to address this one aspect of the AR's operating mechanisms.

There are alternative gas-piston systems out there, notably AR-15 class rifles by Olympic Arms with their OA platform rifles, Patriot Ordnance with their P-415/416 rifles, the Robinson Arms XCR, and the Leitner-Wise CP and SOC rifles.

Questions, for both platforms:
  1. At what point during shooting does your gun dump get fouled such that it absolutely requires cleaning (if you've hit that limit)?
  2. Have you ever gone 500rds without cleaning out the relevant fouled (action/chamber) areas on your gun without a failure?
  3. What, if any, difference in reliability have you found in the gas-piston variant versus the standard AR-15?
  4. Which would you pick and why?

For sheer sense of design and the potential for improved reliability and durability, I'm leaning toward the gas-piston variants. However, other than Olympic's system, the others are relative newbies on the market with their gas-piston systems, and I'm not too fond of being a guinea pig.

Let 'er rip.
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