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I have a pair of the 5.11 jeans
they are nice but the hidden pockets in the back (by you kidneys) I know are for cuffs, are uncomfotrable as heck to me at least, and i had a harder time drawing the gun for them it sat below the belt
the front pocket i hated to put my j frame in was impossibe for me to sit down
Im 31 yrs old 5-11 150ish 30/31 waist but i bought in 32 because i IWB carry
plus they are the most god awful blue color if they made them look better they would sell, my wife asks me why i bought a pair of jeans from the 80s
on a side not they are also a very straight leg almost taper they look stupid on me
but if someone wants them i can order and get you great prices
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