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I have now found my carry spot. Moved the belt clips to the very top holes of the holster. This allows the holster/gun to ride a little lower in the waist band - which in turn keeps the grip a little closer to the body. I wear it at 4 O'clock with the oval clips - the J clips just allow the gun to weight the pants down & I do not like C clips - the top always pops - or the belt pops out of the top part of the C clip. Since I have found my sweet spot - I just "assemble" my rig to my pants along with belt and then pull them on. This works well to alleviate all the twisting and pulling. I am wondering how Velcro clips would work? Anyone with these care to comment?
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