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Jaystekan · January 15th, 2008, 06:04 PM

I want to thank the admin and mods of this forum for this thread. I have been an active member of this site for a few months. I never really paid attention to the holster thread until recently. I am in the process of looking for a holster when I came across this thread.

Everyone who uses a forum knows that a forum is a place where people come to vent their frustrations and find answers and suggestions to problems. If i go to XYZ retail store down the block, make my purchase and everything is fine, I am not going to go online and post a thread saying all went well. If i go to XYZ retail store and have nothing but trouble, I may go online and post a warning to others about my situation and take suggestions on how to rectify the problem. When I use a forum, I like to think for every problem posted, there are probably 10 people who happily recieved their items and never posted a nice comment. That being said, the sheer number of complaints on here should serve as a warning to people to beware of certain manufacturers. The manufacturers named in the thread have every right to appeal using the same thread as the people complaining. The primary manufacturer that is mentioned here knows that this forum exists, knows people are complaining and chooses not to answer. I highly doubt that any moderators are deleting his responses. As far as I know this is a thread open to both consumers and manufacturers.

Looking back, I see I am the one who first suggested the Better Business Bureau. I just want to clarify that I have no dog in this fight. I am not involved in the leather business, gun business, holster business in any way whatsoever. I am not trying to get anyone in trouble, I am not trying to ruin anyones business. I am simply a third party suggesting a possible route for consumers to take. I posted the BBB route because when i looked up a particular holstermaker on the BBB website, I saw that a complaint was made to the BBB in June 2007 and was already rectified. In my opinion thats a pretty quick resolution compared to how long people on this thread have waited.

I tend to agree with torrejon. Judging by the number of complaints posted here, and by the amount of money involved, this no longer seems like a business behind in a deadline. This seems like fraud or theft. The number of complaints is easily in the tens of thousands of dollars range, if not more. Like I said i look at posts about problems as 1 problem post to every 10 good outcomes not posted. However we need to remember, while not everyone who received a satisfactory outcome posted, not everyone who's order is still in limbo posted either.

We all know the person who is never happy. Sometimes no matter what, a person is never satisfied with a product, especially a custom product. I don't see that in this the thread. I don't see people complaining about the quality of their holsters. I don't see people complaining their holsters were too expensive. The title of this thread says "Where's my holster". The people in this thread aren't people who are never happy. They are people who were never given the oppurtunity to decide whether they are happy or not with their items. They are people who have no choice but to be unhappy because their hard-earned money was taken and they received nothing in return.

Personally I am glad this thread is here. Like i said i am looking for a holster, which is why i saw this thread and it has helped me steer clear of adding my name to the list of the people already posting their troubles here. This thread may be unfair, may be biased, but it is an open thread and I am sure that response posts by those mentioned in this thread would be more than welcomed by the moderators of this site. The only reason this thread seems unfair is that the manufacturers here have CHOSEN NOT to represent their side of the story and therefore we see only one side. I see many good threads with pictures posted in the holster section of the site and have been looking through it trying to decide where to get my next holster.

January 15th, 2008, 06:04 PM	#117
Jaystekan Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: NC Posts: 470	I want to thank the admin and mods of this forum for this thread. I have been an active member of this site for a few months. I never really paid attention to the holster thread until recently. I am in the process of looking for a holster when I came across this thread. Everyone who uses a forum knows that a forum is a place where people come to vent their frustrations and find answers and suggestions to problems. If i go to XYZ retail store down the block, make my purchase and everything is fine, I am not going to go online and post a thread saying all went well. If i go to XYZ retail store and have nothing but trouble, I may go online and post a warning to others about my situation and take suggestions on how to rectify the problem. When I use a forum, I like to think for every problem posted, there are probably 10 people who happily recieved their items and never posted a nice comment. That being said, the sheer number of complaints on here should serve as a warning to people to beware of certain manufacturers. The manufacturers named in the thread have every right to appeal using the same thread as the people complaining. The primary manufacturer that is mentioned here knows that this forum exists, knows people are complaining and chooses not to answer. I highly doubt that any moderators are deleting his responses. As far as I know this is a thread open to both consumers and manufacturers. Looking back, I see I am the one who first suggested the Better Business Bureau. I just want to clarify that I have no dog in this fight. I am not involved in the leather business, gun business, holster business in any way whatsoever. I am not trying to get anyone in trouble, I am not trying to ruin anyones business. I am simply a third party suggesting a possible route for consumers to take. I posted the BBB route because when i looked up a particular holstermaker on the BBB website, I saw that a complaint was made to the BBB in June 2007 and was already rectified. In my opinion thats a pretty quick resolution compared to how long people on this thread have waited. I tend to agree with torrejon. Judging by the number of complaints posted here, and by the amount of money involved, this no longer seems like a business behind in a deadline. This seems like fraud or theft. The number of complaints is easily in the tens of thousands of dollars range, if not more. Like I said i look at posts about problems as 1 problem post to every 10 good outcomes not posted. However we need to remember, while not everyone who received a satisfactory outcome posted, not everyone who's order is still in limbo posted either. We all know the person who is never happy. Sometimes no matter what, a person is never satisfied with a product, especially a custom product. I don't see that in this the thread. I don't see people complaining about the quality of their holsters. I don't see people complaining their holsters were too expensive. The title of this thread says "Where's my holster". The people in this thread aren't people who are never happy. They are people who were never given the oppurtunity to decide whether they are happy or not with their items. They are people who have no choice but to be unhappy because their hard-earned money was taken and they received nothing in return. Personally I am glad this thread is here. Like i said i am looking for a holster, which is why i saw this thread and it has helped me steer clear of adding my name to the list of the people already posting their troubles here. This thread may be unfair, may be biased, but it is an open thread and I am sure that response posts by those mentioned in this thread would be more than welcomed by the moderators of this site. The only reason this thread seems unfair is that the manufacturers here have CHOSEN NOT to represent their side of the story and therefore we see only one side. I see many good threads with pictures posted in the holster section of the site and have been looking through it trying to decide where to get my next holster. __________________ Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.