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BlackPR · January 18th, 2008, 10:45 AM

Number one on the "Most Dangerous National Parks" list is Organ Pipe Cactus National Monument.

The number of murders in the post above is deceptively low as MANY bodies are recovered from Organ Pipe Cactus National Monument each year. Many due to exposure, but almost all occuring during the commission of a crime (drug or people smuggling). But unless it's obviously a "murder" it doesn't make the list.

60,000 to 80,000 pounds of marijuana were seized in Organ Pipe last year. An estimated 1,000 illegal immigrants can pass through Organ Pipe in a single day.

Organ Pipe and Saguaro were referred to in the Fraternal Order of Police report on Most Dangerous national parks as "home to body dumping, smuggling and poaching."

While most of the danger in Saguaro is faced by park rangers themselves, [Ranger Karen] Bradford says visitors should realize that a natural preserve so close to Tucson isn't going to be Disneyland. "Bad people come into the park, just like in the city."

Many of the people who oppose Conceal Carry (or even Open Carry) in National Parks proclaim that to do so will make it a place where they won't feel safe to take their families and they will lose their Parks. Organ Pipe Cactus National Monument is apparently lost.

How do we "take it back?" The short answer is not Law Enforcement. By their own admission, even a doubling of budgets would only be a start to resolving the problem. Taking it back means USING it. The same way we took back a lot of our streets, through neighborhood watch programs and making gardens and playgrounds in vacant lots. But you can rest assured, if I cannot defend myself, I would refuse to even try.

January 18th, 2008, 10:45 AM	#11
BlackPR Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Lakewood Colorado Posts: 844	Organ Pipe Cactus National Monument Number one on the "Most Dangerous National Parks" list is Organ Pipe Cactus National Monument. The number of murders in the post above is deceptively low as MANY bodies are recovered from Organ Pipe Cactus National Monument each year. Many due to exposure, but almost all occuring during the commission of a crime (drug or people smuggling). But unless it's obviously a "murder" it doesn't make the list. 60,000 to 80,000 pounds of marijuana were seized in Organ Pipe last year. An estimated 1,000 illegal immigrants can pass through Organ Pipe in a single day. Organ Pipe and Saguaro were referred to in the Fraternal Order of Police report on Most Dangerous national parks as "home to body dumping, smuggling and poaching." While most of the danger in Saguaro is faced by park rangers themselves, [Ranger Karen] Bradford says visitors should realize that a natural preserve so close to Tucson isn't going to be Disneyland. "Bad people come into the park, just like in the city." Many of the people who oppose Conceal Carry (or even Open Carry) in National Parks proclaim that to do so will make it a place where they won't feel safe to take their families and they will lose their Parks. Organ Pipe Cactus National Monument is apparently lost. How do we "take it back?" The short answer is not Law Enforcement. By their own admission, even a doubling of budgets would only be a start to resolving the problem. Taking it back means USING it. The same way we took back a lot of our streets, through neighborhood watch programs and making gardens and playgrounds in vacant lots. But you can rest assured, if I cannot defend myself, I would refuse to even try. __________________ The facts are indisputable. There is more data supporting the benefits of Conceal Carry than there is supporting global warming. If you choose ignorance, in light of all the evidence, in order to bolster your irrational fear of guns, you are a greater threat to society than any gun owner.