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I have to admit, I am not a fan of my wilderness belt. I have the 1.5" belt in a 36" waist. I find my dickies belt from Walmart holds my mk40 better. The wilderness belt worked well for me as long as I exhaled while tightening it, and tmad it as tight as I could without passing out. If I did that, then I was fine, if not then the gun sagged and/or twisted. I keep it around, but I find myself wearing my dickies belt most of the time. My belt didn't have the optional stiffener though, maybe that would help. I ended up ordering a beltman belt a week ago.
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