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Originally Posted by DPro.40
In one post it was mentioned by SelfDefence that open carry was optional in this case. What difference does that make. It was legal according to the written law.
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The difference is that open carry invites scrutiny. Concealed carry means no one knows you have a gun. The patrons chose the most imprudent method available. And they did it intentionally. It is absolutely legal. That does not make it wise. It is legal for me to provide my bank account number over the internet. Not a smart thing to do.
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At best, the police could have verified the report to see it was a peaceable gathering and walked away.
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It was peaceful until the police began their investigation.
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Where does the bank robbery come in SelfDefence ? Where is your source of information or is your argument made out of conjecture.
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I previously posted the reason I suggested that hypothetical. It forces people to consider another view. Many simply discount any information other than their view. The patrons could not know why or what the police were investigating. Or, perhaps they called in the report themselves...
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Again, as I posted before, I would not open carry but, I also do not see justification from the LEO's to violate the civil rights of these citizens with in their legal rights to open carry.
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Apparently, the police escalated the situation when the patrons refused to cooperate with a legal police investigation.
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This is not an open carry vs CCW carry issue SelfDefence.
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No, but open carry was the initial cause for the incident. No open carry, no police...
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It is a civil rights issue that involves open carry with in the written laws of PA. What don't you get.
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I don't see it as a civil rights issue at all. I see it as behavior not unlike a young chid whining to his parents, 'I don't hafta do it and you can't make me. So there!'
{Quote]Not meaning to attack in any way but I have a question for you SelfDefence. Do you find illegal search, seizure and arrest acceptable if it has no direct effect on you ?[/quote]
I find unreasonable searches and seizures to be offensive. It violates the rights enumerated in the Fourth Amendment. Providing identification is not submitting to a search.